I just love how people (itt) that are engaged in this kind of trolling/raging/whatever all have steady jobs paying really well, wife, etc. when they post a "defensive" post.

lemme guess pics or gtfo??

in all seriousness its amazing how much I still miss being a degen and partaking in crazy weekends in AC and then using the change in my car to pay for gas.

I guess in your mind its impossible for people to turn things around and have a successful life. I was able to build my life while still being a degen so once I cut that out things really started to level out. No leveling or trolling here.

No "pics of gtfo" or that kind of sh*t.

And I'm all for people to stop their degen(ing) ways and turn their life around. I do believe it is possible, no question about it.

As you may have notice, I was not speaking about this - I was just making a remark on how almost 100% of this kind of posts and situations ends with one of the parties "defending" themselves in a post, ultimately stating they have a job earning a very solid amount, wife, dogs, the life.

Just that. If that is the true, ****ing awesome for you and glad you took that step.

@consolas sorry for jumping the gun, your posts seem genuine.

Its a rarity in BBV

Having your wife control your finances sounds like the more responsible decision you've made about your gambling. Congrats on that.

However, I don't think the results should dictate whether a story is degen or not. Just because someone won doesn't mean they weren't a total degen. In a recent post a guy started at $15 SNGs and ended up at $5k. If he won every single one does that make him less of degen than if he lost every single one?

This. In my mind degen is gambling significantly more than you intended to and/or can afford to lose. For example if someone loses the money they came to gamble with, goes to the atm and takes out all of their savings and puts it on red, they are a degen. The results don't matter. If they lose and end up getting evicted because they lost their rent money they are a degen. If they win and are on top of the world, they are still a degen. When you can't stick to limits and/or risk money that you can't afford to lose you are degening regardless of results. There are certainly degrees of degening, but the results don't determine them.

This will probably be a TL;DR, so I have provided cliffs at the bottom.
Back when I was 16 or 17 I met a guy online who played poker professionally and he agreed to coach me which never ended up happening, however I did end up getting my brother to make an account on an online gambling site so that I could grind poker. I deposited about $300 which was almost all the money I had at the time and I didn't have a job or anything so I really didn't have anyway to get more if I busted.

I started out playing $0.02/$0.05 and of course after awhile I thought I was crushing the games so I moved up stakes. I was obviously a total donk at the time so I couldn't really beat anything. After awhile I played higher than I should have and would lose like $50 or $60 in a session so I would then play BlackJack to get my money back, which only lasted so long until I went busto.
My grandmother lived with my family at the time (She has since died) and she would let me use her credit card for online purchases since I didn't have access to anything else at the time, so whenever I had money or thought I had money coming I would deposit another $20 or $30 and lose it all of course. Note:she never actually knew I was using it to fund my gambling. Also, at the time they had a casino promotion going on that was actually +EV and I could get about $20 a week from it, but I would usually gamble all my money and have to deposit more so I would have enough money to do the promotion, always resolving to leave enough in the account to not have to deposit again.
So it wasn't really that degen, but I gambled pretty much all the money I had at the time.

Fast forward a little bit and I started getting more money through various sources and I also put a lot more study into the game so I was actually turning a reasonable profit at $25nl and because I was making a couple hundred each month I decided to buy a horse. I needed to buy hay for it, but I had money in my account that I was going to use for it so I thought I was fine.
I don't remember how much I had in my account at the time, but it was somewhere around $700-$800 and I needed about $500 for hay. Also keep in mind poker was my only source of income.
I don't remember why I didn't cash out the money immediately, but I didn't for some reason and obviously I kept playing poker.
I also don't remember all the details of what happened, but I basically had a bad session and got tilted and blew it all on casino games trying to chase my poker losses. I don't remember if I deposited more, or if I left a few dollars or what, but I ended up having about $10 left in the account.
After I lost all that money I was pretty sick because I had no idea how I was going to get money to buy hay. My mom was pretty much broke at the time and I really didn't want to have to ask my dad for money since I obviously should have had the money for hay before I bought the horse.
The next day when I got up in the morning I decided I would enter two $5 tournaments and try to grind it back. I busted out of the one after an hour or two and then ended up shipping the other one for around $140 or so. I was obviously pretty stoked after that and went on to win a few more tournaments after that and was able to cash out all the money I needed for hay.

I was feeling pretty good about things after that and kept grinding poker. I started to play higher stakes and got my roll up to about $6000 and I didn't really have any expenses at the time so this was all just free money for me and was probably more than I had ever had all the rest of my life combined.
I was about to turn 18 at the time so I was planning to use it to get some kind of business going or something.
I decided to start cashing out a couple thousand each month so the first month I cashed out $1000 then the next I cashed out $3000 and by that point after I had cashed that out I was sitting with about $6000 in my account.
I should also note that I was still playing casino games and at this point I was starting to bet a lot more on my gambling binges. I kept trying to stop and at one point I got really tilted after losing a few hundred playing roulette and I put $100 on the second row and $100 on 35 which was a pretty big bet for me at the time. I had gone up to $500 BlackJack bets awhile back and busted the account, but I think I only lost about $1000. Anyway, the 35 hit and I really couldn't believe that I had just won $3700, which put me ahead for my lifetime gambling. So I pretty much swore off gambling at this point which unfortunately only lasted for a couple days.
I also won a $2000 Jackpot in there somewhere.
After that I then started gambling in the casino and basically stopped playing poker.
I would usually just start with about $100 of chips and just do small bets "for fun" but would then get tilted about my losses and buy more chips until I got back to even or got ahead.
The last day I did any serious gambling I started small like normal, but then got to the point where I was betting the max on roulette which was $500 inside and $500 outside. And betting max on BlackJack which was $500 a hand. I don't remember entirely how it went, but at one point I was down to about $2000 from starting at $6000 and I was like starting to get all sweaty and panicky and felt kind of like I had a caffeine buzz or something. It got to the point where I was like pleading that I could get back to even and then I would never gamble again. Amazingly I ended up having one of my big numbers on roulette come through and I got up to even with about a $300 profit. At that point I was like. Whew, Thank you God. But I couldn't bring myself to stop so I told myself I would just do small bets with the extra $300 "for fun" since it was extra money anyway.
Long story short I kept gambling and went way down.
At one point I was playing two hands of BlackJack at $500 a hand and got a 9 and a 10. Of course I had to double them for the rest of my money, but I got two low numbers, however, to my surprise and great relief the dealer actually busted.
So now I was up to $4000, so I went to roulette and started losing a bunch or money on there. It got to the point where I was betting the max which was $100 on five numbers.
I couldn't get anything going to and after a little bit I was completely busto.

After that I felt a strange sense of relief that it was all over.
I just sat there staring at my computer and after a minute I got the urge to punch myself in the head, so I walloped myself a couple times and then went outside and wandered around for a little bit.
I don't remember completely, but I may have moaned a little too.
I felt pretty depressed for the rest of the day.
It's kind of weird, but I felt like a sense of both relief and deep regret at the same time.
After that I gave up poker/gambling.



Now I can look back and say that in some ways I'm glad this happened to me then before I got a job and got married and stuff because it really didn't do to much damage to me at the time.
I have also since then become a winning poker play and am happy to say I never touched casino games after that, although it has been a struggle at times.

I am actually pretty ashamed of what happened and have never told the entire story to anyone and have only mentioned it to one or two people.
Hopefully some of you can get a little bit of enjoyment out of this and my advice would be that if you don't have much self control, never get into gambling.



Cliffs:
Got my brother to make an account on a gambling site and gambled all of my limited amount of money on poker/casino games.
Went busto numerous times and redeposited using my grandmothers credit card.

Got a horse and gambled all the money I needed to use to buy hay for it, but then got lucky and won a tournament with my remaining $10 and ground that up to $500 in a week which I then used for hay.

Got good at poker and started to win decent money at $25nl then started playing casino games a bunch and stopped playing poker so I could gamble more.

Won a Jackpot for $2000
Put $100 on 35 and won $3500

Lost it all during a big gambling spree

Gave up poker/gambling

Grew up a little and got back into poker and became a winning player, but stayed away from casino games all of this time.

martingale pro.

Great story Ace9. Very true to the heart of the thread. Thanks for sharing.

Wow, I don't want to imagine what the rest of those decisions look like...and let's talk about that one in a few years.

Although who knows, maybe you're one of those guys who likes to let his wife **** him with a strapon; so letting her control your money and setting guidelines for what behavior you're allowed to have might actually be a turn on for you.

Either way, please hand over your man badge on the way out; your wife clearly has your balls on a leash until the day you die, so we can't possibly get those back.

[QUOTE][Wow, I don't want to imagine what the rest of those decisions look like...and let's talk about that one in a few years.

Although who knows, maybe you're one of those guys who likes to let his wife **** him with a strapon; so letting her control your money and setting guidelines for what behavior you're allowed to have might actually be a turn on for you.

Either way, please hand over your man badge on the way out; your wife clearly has your balls on a leash until the day you die, so we can't possibly get those back [QUOTE]

Bro it's 2014. I bet you think women shouldnt vote or work either. I had the power to say unless I quit gambling and go to GA I'm going to keep blowing my money. I told my wife I still want to continue to play poker and have small stake trips to AC the agreement was that she controls the money then. I was perfectly fine with that to continuing being able to have some responsible fun.

To each his own. I'm the happiest I've been in a long time.
Our marriage is good, I'm financially comfortable, and I'm still in the game.

Thx for your encouragement.

This all day long. Good read. Kudos for your tale.

Thanks guys. I'm glad you liked it.

POCKET ROCKETS OOOOOO your time has passed. Time to bow out gracefully. Go start a thread in House of Blogs. I would read it.

Nice one Ace9. Taking money from grandma is a cornerstone of youth degeneracy.

Lol @wombat.. Agreed. No blog needed just here comment. That last story was so familiar I was sweaty. The part when you talked about being down to your last dollar just hoping to
Go busto..
Well Done sir...

more stories, less arguing

Nice read Aces. Curious what urged you to buy a horse?

It's every young boys dream...?

Pretty much this.
I always liked them, but my parents never had the money to buy me one or to pay for it's feed so yeah.

im quite sure its every little girls dream. sounds like a lot of work tho.

It is, but I lived on a farm so there was plenty of room to ride which made it worth the work.

RIP Pie o My!

Pocket rockets you lose, give up and kindly leave the interweb

bet your wife beat you when you lost and thats why your so bitter? am right or am i right.

welcome back Tim