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06-19-2011 , 02:07 PM
dem gold in dem hills
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06-19-2011 , 04:05 PM
everytime i lose a pot online, i blame it on the rigged software!
so is never nobody's fault, but the rigged poker website! FML
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06-19-2011 , 10:31 PM
What exactly does it mean to buy gold at 10x margin a day?
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06-19-2011 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ferrengi
What exactly does it mean to buy gold at 10x margin a day?
Pretty sure it means he was fronting 10% of the total $ for the gold bought.

for example... Since the broker doesn't feel gold will move more than 10% in a given day....

They let u put up $10,000 and you can purchase $100,000 of gold.

This way you take the gains and losses on 100K rather than on 10K (more reward if it moves in your favor).

If it moves against u.. they know u have at least 10,000 to cover.

If it moves more than your 10K you have fronted... then yes you owe them that money.

And I believe you are charged interest on the $ you are borrowing... 90K for example.
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06-20-2011 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by noledges
Pretty sure it means he was fronting 10% of the total $ for the gold bought.

for example... Since the broker doesn't feel gold will move more than 10% in a given day....

They let u put up $10,000 and you can purchase $100,000 of gold.

This way you take the gains and losses on 100K rather than on 10K (more reward if it moves in your favor).

If it moves against u.. they know u have at least 10,000 to cover.

If it moves more than your 10K you have fronted... then yes you owe them that money.

And I believe you are charged interest on the $ you are borrowing... 90K for example.
Exactly. Gold moved down nearly 7% the week after Bin Laden's death so I was down 70% at some point. I am still holding the gold and paid nearly 1k USD in interests so far (not including credit cards interest). The crazy thing is part of my up front money is for school and another part was a loan from the bank and the rest came from credit cards. This is what you call leveraged leverage.

Last edited by chinagambler; 06-20-2011 at 12:24 AM.
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06-20-2011 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ferrengi
What exactly does it mean to buy gold at 10x margin a day?
You put up collateral and then the brokerage firm termporarily loans you 10x the money. Therefore, if it goes up, your profit is 10x what it would normally be. If it goes down 10%, you're broke.
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06-20-2011 , 12:31 PM
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This is what you call leveraged leverage.
AKA a really quick way to screw yourself really hard.
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06-20-2011 , 12:35 PM
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06-20-2011 , 04:20 PM
my entire knowledge of margin investment came from Saved by the Bell. Zack Morris, degen since junior high...

Mikey: Based on everything you've taught us, Zack took our money and dove into the potato market.
Miss Bliss: Zack, you've taken it upon yourself to change the class project?
Zack: I didn't change the project, only the investment.
Miss Bliss: I see. I'm curious. How did you buy these potatoes?
Zack: On margarine.
Miss Bliss: You mean margin?
Zack: Yeah, yeah. margin.
Miss Bliss: You put up a little money to buy a lot of potatoes?
Zack: That matches my information.
Miss Bliss: Did you know that when you lose on margin you owe the difference?
Zack: Not exactly.
Miss Bliss: Punch up my account, Mikey. How much does it say I owe?
Mikey: $1,567. That's including commission.
Miss Bliss: Do any of you children know how much money that is?
Screech: I do! I do!
Miss Bliss: And so do i. I have to pay it back.
Nicki: We didn't know that.
Miss Bliss: You were in on this, too?
Nicki: Not at first, but that money could do good things.
Miss Bliss: I expected more from you, Nicki. And samuel?
Screech: I was duped!
Miss Bliss: I get it. No one can think for themselves. Right, mikey?
Mikey: I guess not.
Miss Bliss: Well, let me tell you all something. This is the most dishonest behavior I've ever encountered in 14 years of teaching. This class has decided not only to deceive me, but to steal my hard earned money.
Zack: We didn't know that.
Miss Bliss: Let me tell you something else you didn't know. You just cost me my new car.

--cut to commercial break--
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06-20-2011 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chinagambler
Right now I have 2 credit card bills with a ****load of interests to pay back as well as my tuition and I'm running out of excuses to tell to my university but I can't sell my gold because the losses are still quite big anyway that's the story of my life over the past few months I'm thinking of going to Macau and bet 100k on a hand of baccarat once gold gets back to a decent price.
Where did you buy gold that you're still offside? I assume you're going to close your trade before betting the 100k or is the intention you're going to spend money you don't have?
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06-20-2011 , 07:55 PM
Damn zach Morris
Super degen

I went to the Pca this year , didn't wanna play the main event just wanted to Han out so I brought barely any money .... Morning of tournament inasm everyone I know for a loan to scratch the 10k together ... Brick of course


Pay everyone back promptly so not super degen , but I tried not bringing money so I would have self control not to ply that shizzy tourney ... Didn't work out
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06-21-2011 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Masq
Where did you buy gold that you're still offside? I assume you're going to close your trade before betting the 100k or is the intention you're going to spend money you don't have?
My bank offers many services to buy gold, including an account denominated in gold and margin services so it's way more convenient and cheaper to buy and sell it from the bank. Even before I started buying gold on margin I had most of my money in gold and only converted it to cash when I needed some immediately. I will only make the bet if I make some money from my current trade in gold, I am not yet degen enough to bet a lot of money I don't have on a -EV coin flip (even though I have done it before the amount was smaller so I would only be screwed for a few weeks had I lost). My rich degen friend who regularly brings huge amounts to sportbooks, horse races and Macau to plays Baccarat for over 10k+ a hand (over USD1,500) invited me to go during the summer holiday so I hope gold recovers quickly so we can have a blast.


I am currently trying to get the diamond status with Sands and since none of my friends use a player card when gambling they sometimes let me accumulate points by betting in my spot. At the rate I am getting points I calculated the EV of getting to diamond is -HKD1,000,000 but I'm trying to find ways to get there for less (already got 5% of the points required and I'm up 40k with Sands). Will definitely post some updates if I do make the bet.
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06-23-2011 , 11:12 AM
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Was waiting for gold to reach 1560 before selling but it never made it past 1558.2; today tilted me so bad I donked money betting even on roulette and odd came many times. Looks like I'll have to cancel my Macau trip. At least now that all my poker accounts are empty I can concentrate on watching videos and reviewing hand histories.

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06-23-2011 , 01:38 PM
had like 50 dollars on full tilt. lost 25 dollars mostly by tilting and running bad. so of course i played one ultra turbo heads up for the rest of my money. and lost.
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06-23-2011 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BrunoSA
had like 50 dollars on full tilt. lost 25 dollars mostly by tilting and running bad. so of course i played one ultra turbo heads up for the rest of my money. and lost.


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06-23-2011 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDream7777
I built my roll to $100k then lost it all. I had $35k available to me in credit from the bank. $15k credit card limit, $15k line of credit and $5k overdraft. I took this money and continued to play high steaks. I entered a $1.6k buy in live tournament that allows re-entries in the first hour. I gambled like crazy to try and get chips, near the end i was just open shoving blind. On the last hand before re-entries were over open shoved 73os, guy calls with AA. Flop comes 733 and i double. I was in for 5 buy ins. I ended up min cashing for $3k. Couple weeks later i enter a $2k re-entry. I was in for 4-buy ins this time and didnt cash. Once again i open jammed into AA and cracked it with two unsuited unders. I steaked my friend who was in for 2 buyins, he also lost. At this point i have lost all that credit as well through continuing to play very high and steaking and loaning friends money to play. I am owed $45k from friends but I have no access to cash at all. Now I am steaked for mtts and i am 7k in makeup. Poker has made almost every aspect of my life worse. Im in debt, my relationships with family has gone bad as they dont accept poker, I have dropped out of university twice so I am way behind but now in 3rd year. I became clinically depressed from the losses and am now on anti-depressents. I am overweight from eating junk food and playing online poker. I have severe bad posture from slouching too much with causes back and neck pain. I have experienced urinary problems from holding it during sngs when I didn't have wireless internet. I urinate fine now. Yes i know, I should have used a pee bottle.
I still do not believe in br management and I will continue to risk my entire roll if I ever get money again. I am known as one of the most fearless and tilt proof players. The huge losses did eventually get to me but I am at peace with them now. Several times I have lost $10k in a cash game and I just understand its part of the game and buy-in some more. I continue to play fearless despite my financial position. For instance in the uboc main event, 3 bet jammed with AJos on the exact bubble when several people had less chips than me. I lost the hand but people will less chips busted on the same hand so i min-cashed. The main friend who owes me money used to be an extremely spewy horrible player when i loaned him money. He now owes me $33k.
I was always a huge baller, and now for the first time in my life I am broke, but I am such a degenerate that I am enjoying being broke. It is motivating me to keep improving my game to get out of this hole.
I have risked my entire roll in high stakes live cash games several times.
My favourite game is mtts ofcourse because I am such a degenerate and love sweating for those huge payouts, and love flipping for five figures at the final table. I enjoy the sick variance.
I went to Macau for the most recent APPT Main Event. I bought in directly using debt for the main event, cash games, side events, and all expenses. I swapped 50% with a friend who made the final table. I have since lost my share.
I have a horse who won over $100k in tournaments last year. Most of the money came to me. I lost it all and can no longer steak him.
When poker punishes me I still love it, I love every aspect of it.
When i graduate from university next year my parents will give me $25k. I will move out with this money and pursue professional poker.
Every sunday i get steaked in about 16 mtts across 12 sites for about $3k in buy ins.
U should stop now. Not kidding.
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06-23-2011 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ArchRival
U should stop now. Not kidding.
Also google the difference between "stake" and "steak".
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06-25-2011 , 09:55 PM
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I still do not believe in br management
I was 12 when my parents told me br management wasn't real.

I cried.

Then took a shot.
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06-25-2011 , 11:03 PM
Too much gold.. My Degen story...

So I started out as a sucessful web designer and was bored to ****, I have always had a massive urge to gambol it up, when I got my first CC i found myself playing 50$ spider like game on will hill, i won like 400$ in the first day and thought I had a system and was the dogs bolloks. Cut story short, busto and jobless cause I insta quit. I then decide poker is a skill game so thats where im heading. I cant be fkd to read up all the books, so I deposit 1k and google highest varience poker game and decide to play that, if its highest varience, skill cant be as imp. I start playing some 500$ hyper turbo sats to the 1k super tuesday on stars w/Jorj95 obv and run like god, roll upto 9k, awesome I think. Ive got the hang of this. I calm down a bunch.

Later that year ive been messing around with some live pokers with mixed results, but my gf is giving me the whole, you lost a gucci watch tonight, wtf speech, so I shut her up and buy her a laptop as a gift because she was a broke eastern european anyway and didnt have a laptop (you can see where this is going) So ive started showing some more stable results but still have <degen inside syndrome> so im playing a bunch of 26$ 45man sngs on FTP and run like god, make about 2.5k in a week and go on a 1.5k not upswing and get miffed, I have about 9k in the bank and things have been pretty uneventful, the gf is giving me the whole gaaaaamblor speech so I decide to be balla while at her place and try to win big @ NL2k 6max on stars (lol wp me) I just sit at a random table and Elky was there so him being the pro, he is obv bluffing me all the time in my eyes. We get into a 3betting wars and this time I have 56o and no f way im letting this go, if I ran 56 into KK, then fml but im going with it. Board comes down Q85 and i think, GIN! AK missed and im going to rep a set anyway so *** him. He leads, i raise, he calls. Turn x. he check/calls. I turn to the gf and say: look at this drawing fish. Riv x. He checks, I jam for 2/3 pot and he snaps off w/TT. Her laptop goes right off the balcony and I storm off in rage. Im single.

So I decide to fly to Madrid to play poker there cause there were some tourneys running and thought a break would be nice. (doing the odd job on the side for extra food and titty money) I sign into a 200e tourney the day before the event I planned to play and people started rebuying for 100e (Weird i know) Turns out its a 200e tourney with 1k stacks and 100e for rebuys with stupid structure, but fk it, i can ball, im in for 1.1k and dont cash. Head over to the cash tables where the queue was massive but there was space at 2/5, that will do me nicely, (sidenote, in madrid the cash tables are played in a counter clockwise direction, wtf i know) and I go on a heater and all the old men are fish there anyway and left with 6k. On the way back to my hotel I ask the taxi driver for a hooker and some smoke and he hooks me up, I finally meet this hooker and omfg I would have rather fked roadkill if it was still warm. I pass but have to pay something anyway, so I look up whores in madrid and find that I have to goto a street called grand via. I find a good looking romanian girl who proceeds to rape me for 700e but I got my jollies off so w/e. Time to head back home..

There are some 1/2k events running along with the action the IPT and GSOP bring, good time as any to get in. I spike 3rd in a GSOP event and head straight to roulette and proceed to lose a bunch of it, with BR decreasing rapidly now I turn up at some 500e KO event and there is some loud mouthed italian there who is acting all bigshot (turns out he was bigshot, he had a sick ferrari outside the casino but w/e) I couldnt let this slide cause the dealer was ultra fit, so I tell him that the first hand we are getting it in blind, he agrees. I obv open jam blind and he thinks about folding, I call him a puta which I dont even think is italian and he huffs and then calls, I win w/Q high and he leaves angry. I bust like 40mins later and join him at the cash tables. He rapes me for 4k but it was just varience, if i won it would be skill obv. I go home and throw my floor fan out of the window just because.

I take it easy for a few months after that, a few weeks ago I start trying the slow grind thing and its going well, running 6bb/100 over 140k hands. Tonight I run into some **** who decides to flop the nuts vs my set at nl200 and go on ape tilt for no reason. I decide im going to teach him a lesson and lose 1k to the table and none to him, I proceed to open shove almost 90% of hands for the next 60 hands. I run 830bbs above ev and am up almost 6 buyins.



The bitch still thinks I owe her a laptop fwiw.
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06-26-2011 , 02:36 AM
borrowed 10k from bank when I was younger and dumb. Had no job yet, tought would be easy to pay it.

Lost it all degening it online cuz I sucked ass online (And still does, I don't mind,and didn't played since.)

1k left to pay off. erf.
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06-26-2011 , 06:02 AM
mbn awesome story. +1
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He rapes me for 4k but it was just varience, if i won it would be skill obv.
hahaha truth. elky was probably thinking same thing.
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06-26-2011 , 06:11 AM
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I find a good looking romanian girl who proceeds to rape me for 700e but I got my jollies off so w/e.
Did she stole from u or what? 700e for f.uck is sick amount imo.
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06-26-2011 , 06:15 AM
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Did she stole from u or what? 700e for f.uck is sick amount imo.
my degen friend got raped for 80,000 yen (like 1,000USD) while we were in tokyo for "30 seconds of whiskey dick".

said he kept giving them his CC and signing receipts.
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06-28-2011 , 08:54 PM
built my bankroll from 50 dollars to 600 grinding sit n gos,busted it all in 30 mins when taking a shot at 50/1 dollar and 1/2 dollar.

turned 25 dollars into 350 dollars in about 3 hrs today playing 1 table plo,should have logged off but didnt,my balance now reads : 0.00

huhhhhh,i jus dont belive in bankroll and will probably never learn.still waiting for that 10 dollars into a milly in one day DAY

obviously no were near some of the other stories on here but kind of a big deal to me
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06-28-2011 , 09:20 PM
in the last 1.5 weeks i've gassed off 700 and 300 off my sports betting accounts tilting on online blackjack

it usually goes along this script:

700 in account. I'll try to work it up to like 725 or 750 and quit. play 5 dollar hands. lose like 10 in a row to go to 650... wtf?!??! (start tilt here). lets go to $10 a hand. then i fall to like 550 or 500. Now i get pissed. 25 or 50 a hand. next thing you know i'm down to like 125. then its always like 5 brutal beats to crush me. usually dealer getting blackjacks or drawing 7's on a 14 to beat my 20. usually i get a double down with a 25 bet and 25 left, which results in a 17 getting cracked by something. then i stare at the 0 in my account and think, did that really just happen?
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