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Bounty Hunters: Any Two Strike Back [Total / Super / Progressive KOs Appreciation Thread] Bounty Hunters: Any Two Strike Back [Total / Super / Progressive KOs Appreciation Thread]

07-20-2017 , 05:43 AM
The thread is intended for you all to post interesting hand histories from progressive, total and super knockout tourneys (incl. SNGs) as well as bwin/partypoker's Sit & Go Hero (4-max bounty edition) and KO SNGs where the bounty is, say, at least 20% of the BI. It's inspired by today's MicroMillions event #34, a $3.30 total KO with re-entries.

I hope some American site implements total KOs soon too.

For those who don't know the terminology (e.g. what 'a total KO' means), I've explained it in a footnote*.

I'll start with a couple of hands from MicroMillions #34 that are very typical of the total KO format.

PokerStars - 200/400 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 4,080
UTG: 7,385
UTG+1: 4,126
MP: 38,196
Hero (CO): 12,969
BTN: 19,799
SB: 11,113

7 players post ante of 100, SB posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,300) Hero has 4 3

fold, UTG+1 raises to 4,026 and is all-in, fold, Hero raises to 12,869 and is all-in, BTN raises to 19,699 and is all-in, fold, fold
Spoiler:
Flop: (31,064, 3 players) 4 6 3

Turn: (31,064, 3 players) T

River: (31,064, 3 players) 9

Hero shows 4 3 (Two Pair, Fours and Threes)

Main Pot [13,378]: (Pre 18%, Flop 67%, Turn 81%)
Side Pot#1 [17,686]: (Pre 19%, Flop 69%, Turn 81%)

BTN shows A A (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [13,378]: (Pre 71%, Flop 29%, Turn 19%)
Side Pot#1 [17,686]: (Pre 81%, Flop 31%, Turn 19%)

UTG+1 shows 8 K (High Card, King)

Main Pot [13,378]: (Pre 11%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 31,064
PokerStars - 500/1000 Ante 250 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 27,148
MP+2: 10,000
CO: 80,543
BTN: 5,850
SB: 23,826
Hero (BB): 16,134
UTG: 96,999
UTG+1: 31,200
MP: 5,220

9 players post ante of 250, SB posts SB 500, Hero posts BB 1,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 3,750) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, MP raises to 4,970 and is all-in, MP+1 raises to 26,898 and is all-in, fold, CO calls 26,898, BTN calls 5,600 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 14,884 and is all-in
Spoiler:
Flop: (83,000, 5 players) 3 4 9

Turn: (83,000, 5 players) 5

River: (83,000, 5 players) A

MP+1 shows J K (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [27,600]: (Pre 18%, Flop 13%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#1 [2,520]: (Pre 23%, Flop 14%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#2 [30,852]: (Pre 25%, Flop 14%, Turn 8%)
Side Pot#3 [22,028]: (Pre 41%, Flop 25%, Turn 16%)

CO shows A Q (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [27,600]: (Pre 17%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [2,520]: (Pre 21%, Flop 15%, Turn 11%)
Side Pot#2 [30,852]: (Pre 27%, Flop 17%, Turn 16%)
Side Pot#3 [22,028]: (Pre 59%, Flop 75%, Turn 84%)

Hero shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)

Main Pot [27,600]: (Pre 32%, Flop 59%, Turn 61%)
Side Pot#1 [2,520]: (Pre 42%, Flop 69%, Turn 76%)
Side Pot#2 [30,852]: (Pre 48%, Flop 70%, Turn 76%)

BTN shows A T (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [27,600]: (Pre 13%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [2,520]: (Pre 15%, Flop 2%, Turn 5%)

MP shows 6 6 (One Pair, Sixes)

Main Pot [27,600]: (Pre 20%, Flop 14%, Turn 26%)

CO wins 83,000
The latter hand is obv meh, just I wanted to showcase that 5-way all-ins are not rare in TKOs.

18-36-player hyper super-KO SNGs at Stars are also somewhat fun. (To clarify, the starting stacks are 500 chips, so the heads of players with ~150 chips are very attractive.) Let me give an example from a $3 24-man. Kneel before the almighty any-two

PokerStars - 50/100 Ante 20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 949
SB: 856
BB: 151
UTG: 1,761
CO: 128

5 players post ante of 20, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 250) Hero has 3 9

UTG calls 100, CO raises to 108 and is all-in, Hero raises to 929 and is all-in, SB calls 786 and is all-in, BB calls 31 and is all-in, UTG calls 829
Spoiler:
Flop: (3,033, 5 players) 8 6 T

Turn: (3,033, 5 players) 8

River: (3,033, 5 players) J

UTG shows A 9 (One Pair, Eights)

Main Pot [640]: (Pre 11%, Flop 5%, Turn 11%)
Side Pot#1 [92]: (Pre 13%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
Side Pot#2 [2,115]: (Pre 16%, Flop 15%, Turn 14%)
Side Pot#3 [186]: (Pre 79%, Flop 77%, Turn 70%)

Hero shows 3 9 (Flush, Jack High)

Main Pot [640]: (Pre 4%, Flop 7%, Turn 24%)
Side Pot#1 [92]: (Pre 5%, Flop 15%, Turn 28%)
Side Pot#2 [2,115]: (Pre 16%, Flop 22%, Turn 30%)
Side Pot#3 [186]: (Pre 21%, Flop 23%, Turn 30%)

SB shows A K (One Pair, Eights)

Main Pot [640]: (Pre 41%, Flop 44%, Turn 45%)
Side Pot#1 [92]: (Pre 52%, Flop 55%, Turn 50%)
Side Pot#2 [2,115]: (Pre 68%, Flop 63%, Turn 55%)

BB shows Q 3 (One Pair, Eights)

Main Pot [640]: (Pre 24%, Flop 6%, Turn 3%)
Side Pot#1 [92]: (Pre 30%, Flop 16%, Turn 8%)

CO shows J 9 (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)

Main Pot [640]: (Pre 20%, Flop 38%, Turn 18%)

Hero wins 3,033
It's hard to assess such spots accurately because ICM calculators don't account for the possibility of a >3-way all-in; that said, I do believe all the above plays were correct or marginally losing at worst.

* A super-KO (SKO) is a KO tourney where the bounty on everyone's head is half the buy-in (excl. rake) and doesn't grow - you get a player's entire bounty when you knock them out.

A progressive KO (PKO) is one where some part of the BI (usually 50%, 75% or 100%) is initially posted as a bounty on your (and everyone else's) head too, however, when you knock a player out, you receive only half of their bounty, the other half is added to the bounty on your own head (which you get to keep only if you win the entire tourney). Thus the bounties on the remaining players grow as the tourney progresses, though not nearly as fast as the average stack, but still, the bounties matter much more in the late stage of a PKO than in the late stage of an SKO that turns essentially into a vanilla MTT as the average stack grows.

A total KO (TKO) is another name for a 100% PKO, i.e. a PKO where the entire BI (minus rake) is posted as a bounty on your head, thus there's no 'regular' prize pool and no bubble - prizes can only be won by KO'ing other players.

Often, the term 'PKO' is used in the narrow sense, to denote specifically a 50% PKO (where the initial bounty is 50% of the BI).

Last edited by coon74; 07-20-2017 at 05:57 AM. Reason: forgot to mention SNG Hero
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07-20-2017 , 06:28 AM
RIP, Saturday Mini TKO Early Edition ($11 BI) It's unlikely that TKOs return into Stars' regular MTT schedule - most regs of those stakes refuse to play them, and scheduled MTTs do need some regs to get large guarantees. TKOs may reappear as on-demand SNGs, though (The bounty amounts below are rewritten according to Stars' new bounty display fashion, i.e. I've listed that half of the opponent's bounty that can actually be earned by knocking them out.) The starting stacks were 10K chips; because the number of bounties in play had been decreasing, every 10K chips were worth $5 or so at that point, or at least, less than the starting value of $10.

PokerStars - 1200/2400 Ante 240 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 32,557 [$16.22 bounty]
BB: 190,626 (VPIP: 29.39, PFR: 15.18, 3Bet Preflop: 3.00, Hands: 230) [$9.99 bounty]
UTG: 114,402 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 15.28, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 72) [$38.69 bounty]
UTG+1: 165,600 (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 75) [$19.97 bounty]
MP: 23,717 (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38) [$36.19 bounty ]
MP+1: 79,198 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 8.77, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 58) [$9.99 bounty]
MP+2: 31,851 (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25) [$14.98 bounty]
CO: 92,626 (VPIP: 35.83, PFR: 11.86, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 120) [$18.10 bounty]
BTN: 50,614 (VPIP: 4.65, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43) [$24.96 bounty]

9 players post ante of 240, Hero posts SB 1,200, BB posts BB 2,400

Pre Flop: (pot: 5,760) Hero has T 3

fold, UTG+1 raises to 5,280, MP raises to 23,477 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 32,317 and is all-in, BB raises to 190,386 and is all-in, fold
Spoiler:
Flop: (95,551, 3 players) J K T

Turn: (95,551, 3 players) 3

River: (95,551, 3 players) 2

Hero shows T 3 (Two Pair, Tens and Threes)

Main Pot [77,871]: (Pre 25%, Flop 60%, Turn 86%)
Side Pot#1 [17,680]: (Pre 35%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)

BB shows 4 4 (One Pair, Fours)

Main Pot [77,871]: (Pre 36%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Side Pot#1 [17,680]: (Pre 65%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)

MP shows 9 A (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [77,871]: (Pre 39%, Flop 32%, Turn 10%)

Hero wins 95,551

Last edited by coon74; 07-20-2017 at 06:34 AM.
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07-20-2017 , 06:31 AM
No
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07-20-2017 , 07:32 AM
You have 10k posts on 2+2 and you thought posting this in BBV would go well?
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07-20-2017 , 07:47 AM
No, I don't have 10K posts, and I did know that BBV has exquisite taste and standard (for this tourney format) preflop stackoffs would be boring, but I still wanted to leave those HHs somewhere so that I could remember them myself.

The thing is that such 'winning moments' happen in every few tourneys, so on aggregate, they deliver more pleasure than the relatively rare BBV moments in zzzz cash games; I just don't know how to express this stream of awesomeness properly.

Last edited by coon74; 07-20-2017 at 08:00 AM.
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07-25-2017 , 05:05 PM
You have 9928 posts then. Near enough 10k. TKOs are ****ing ****. The hands you posted are ****.
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07-25-2017 , 05:28 PM
No
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07-25-2017 , 10:24 PM
"and I did know that BBV has exquisite taste and standard"

WELL WE DO BUCKO
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07-28-2017 , 02:20 AM
Violence is not the answer. Poker is about loving thy neighbor not hunting them
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