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06-10-2012 , 01:25 AM
OP...you are a great writer. And you are not so much a degen as you are a pathological gambler, in that your identity gets caught up in the winning or losing. If you lose, you feel your worth as a human drops.

There are more pathological gamblers on here than most. You aren't really a degen, since you really get bothered when you lose in -ev games. So, you know better, and don't really want to play negative expectation games. I think a true degen just loves playing those games no matter what.

But don't feel bad. Guys like Bobby Knight are pathological when coaching basketball. John McEnroe was pathological when playing tennis. There are pathological stock traders, and pathological auto mechanics.

The key is to do whatever it takes to avoid the places where you know the wheels can come off. You see it all the time with poker plays. A guy like TJ Cloutier is a known craps degenerate, and I have never heard of him announcing that he had a problem with it. That is what he has to do, just like most have to drink water. He accepts that as part of him.

But you, like many, put your identity on the line when you are gambling, and that creates danger, as it will usually create a situation where you just want to win, so you can be a human being again.

We all have issues. Donald Trump is a terrible person with very low self esteem, so he makes sure he plays in an arena where he is always Donald Trump, and NOT a regular person. He knows that if his personality matched up with the normal rules of society that he would be the big loser, so he plays games he can win.

So, you are going to have to just avoid activities that lead to the big blowouts. Everyone is vulnerable to something. Geniuses smoke cigarettes, and if the price went up to $100 per pack many would be homeless and robbing banks to get their fix. So, know your self, and try to protect yourself the best way you can.

I have been through similar emotional swings at least 1,000 times. You have to somehow climb the mountain again and then, when you are feeling good, you have to remember the pain of your past mistakes so that you won't even think about doing it again.

The problem is that when you feel good you will think you can manage the bad habits. Like that Brad Booth video the other day. Here is a guy going down in flames and committing crimes throughout the world, yet he states that he is no longer going to play Pit Games, Drink Alcohol, or Play Online....until he is back on top/in control.....wow. That video said it all.
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06-10-2012 , 02:05 AM
Only red cliffs, but get a job. Gl
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06-10-2012 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dreddy
OP...you are a great writer. And you are not so much a degen as you are a pathological gambler, in that your identity gets caught up in the winning or losing. If you lose, you feel your worth as a human drops.

There are more pathological gamblers on here than most. You aren't really a degen, since you really get bothered when you lose in -ev games. So, you know better, and don't really want to play negative expectation games. I think a true degen just loves playing those games no matter what.

But don't feel bad. Guys like Bobby Knight are pathological when coaching basketball. John McEnroe was pathological when playing tennis. There are pathological stock traders, and pathological auto mechanics.

The key is to do whatever it takes to avoid the places where you know the wheels can come off. You see it all the time with poker plays. A guy like TJ Cloutier is a known craps degenerate, and I have never heard of him announcing that he had a problem with it. That is what he has to do, just like most have to drink water. He accepts that as part of him.

But you, like many, put your identity on the line when you are gambling, and that creates danger, as it will usually create a situation where you just want to win, so you can be a human being again.

We all have issues. Donald Trump is a terrible person with very low self esteem, so he makes sure he plays in an arena where he is always Donald Trump, and NOT a regular person. He knows that if his personality matched up with the normal rules of society that he would be the big loser, so he plays games he can win.

So, you are going to have to just avoid activities that lead to the big blowouts. Everyone is vulnerable to something. Geniuses smoke cigarettes, and if the price went up to $100 per pack many would be homeless and robbing banks to get their fix. So, know your self, and try to protect yourself the best way you can.

I have been through similar emotional swings at least 1,000 times. You have to somehow climb the mountain again and then, when you are feeling good, you have to remember the pain of your past mistakes so that you won't even think about doing it again.

The problem is that when you feel good you will think you can manage the bad habits. Like that Brad Booth video the other day. Here is a guy going down in flames and committing crimes throughout the world, yet he states that he is no longer going to play Pit Games, Drink Alcohol, or Play Online....until he is back on top/in control.....wow. That video said it all.
You have a seriously great mind dude.
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06-10-2012 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by unlucky4me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYzVFClHyg


Ha that song is so bad ass.
These are the 2 that came to my mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCXQycyN_Vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pHhItkhc7o
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06-10-2012 , 01:41 PM
how old is OP ?

i really can feel your pain, thanks to God im having a great paid job and always a bit luck

but this sucks big time ofc , hope you get all sorted

cheers mate
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06-12-2012 , 04:15 AM
Chasing losses with something quick is what lures me in, my problem is that even when i win its never enough. Thus I keep on playing and eventually hit a cold run of cards that decimates my bankroll.

I too am a pathalogical gambler, my ego thinks i can beat the house, but i think ive learned my lesson. Having no money left helps ofc.
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06-12-2012 , 03:54 PM
The thing is that i decide to gamble to stop gambling, isn't that ironic?
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06-12-2012 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
Googled lost everything roulette and this was the second result. I just lost 2k last night. Ugh I'm pissed
After this post i went back to the casino and lost another 3k on bj, roulette. Im imbarrased but thats the truth. I need a long break from poker and hopfully after that i can put pit games behind me for good.
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07-28-2013 , 02:57 PM
Any life updates OP?
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07-28-2013 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
Read the misery in the OP. Read his other thread. He needs to stop poker and gambling, period. Its been an endless spiral downwards.
Seems to me OP is a great poker player but degens it all away on ******ed games he can't beat.
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07-28-2013 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tultfill
Seems to me OP is a great poker player but degens it all away on ******ed games he can't beat.
gtfo u cry baby
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07-28-2013 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tultfill
Seems to me OP is a great poker player but degens it all away on ******ed games he can't beat.
I doubt I would use the word great.
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07-29-2013 , 12:04 AM
stop drinking for one
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07-29-2013 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Raging Potato
gtfo u cry baby
asslicker
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07-29-2013 , 09:27 AM
I was curious why he wanted to go to Georgia.

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07-30-2013 , 12:29 AM
sick bump this guy is such a legend.
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07-30-2013 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
I was curious why he wanted to go to Georgia.

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Hahahaha, I thought he meant Georgia too but it made sense to me. Deffo a place you'd go to when you have "no outs left" lolol
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07-30-2013 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Coprolagnia
Am I the only one who thought he was moving to Georgia?
Definitely not. It really confused me when he used the term, "uni" in the first couple of sentences too.
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07-30-2013 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bubonicplay
Its only after you've lost everything that your free to do anything

- ******ed brad pitt
fyp
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07-31-2013 , 07:35 PM
About six weeks ago I had the displeasure of reliving this sickening roulette experience, this time losing around $9,000, close to 90% of my net worth and easily surpassing any amount I'd lost previously. The next few days were a living hell, and an important lesson. How I managed to hit the brakes before losing everything is a miracle, but boy did I come close.

Standing there at the roulette table, shaking, I was faced a person I thought I'd never see again, someone all too familiar. I walked out, away from the tables and over to the service desk, where I asked to speak with someone about barring myself from this place forever. A man came down and we shook hands and he motioned for me follow him. We rode in a lift and came to a room considerably less glamorized than the rest of the casino; a part not designated for the public. We spoke at length and I waited patiently while he performed his duty of reciting all the possible alternatives that might be preferable to a barring order. I told him none of them would do me any good. He seemed to understand, and with a grace that seemed to surprise him even more than it did me, he became human and accommodated my request.

Now come the forms, the filling out of details, the interviews with the Independent Gambling Authority, the mugshot. The counseling sessions. The shame of having to tell my fiancee. The feeling I never want to experience again.

It is a somber recounting of a dark time; but the retrieval brings about with sufficient force the memory of what happens when I go down that road. To forget is to die. And as somber the recounting; still I am here, still I am rich, and still I am blessed beyond words to have someone so amazing in my life. It's been five months since I drank, six weeks since I gambled, two hours since she awoke in my arms, the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life.
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07-31-2013 , 08:09 PM
who the hell cares?
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07-31-2013 , 08:10 PM
Wow. Thanks so much for sharing...again.

I'm sorry you had a relapse but proud of you for banning yourself. Are there any other casinos you need to ban yourself from as well?

The most important thing in life is to have someone who is your rock, someone whom you can always rely on. It sounds like you have that.

Keep on truckin op! There are always people rooting for you to succeed!
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07-31-2013 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin Agrees
who the hell cares?
Kindly GTFO.
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07-31-2013 , 11:15 PM
Is this actually true or just an elaborate troll post?
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08-01-2013 , 01:20 AM
Degens gonna degen.
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