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Who flats a  4bet at 25NL? Who flats a  4bet at 25NL?

10-11-2009 , 03:05 AM
Is villain on crack? was expecting him to either shove over or fold... i'm pretty sure if i shoved he'd still called based on what hes doing.




Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $49.90
CO: $35.80
BTN: $11.05
Hero (SB): $25.45
BB: $22.20
UTG: $25.80

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, BTN raises to $11.05 all in, Hero calls $6.55, CO calls $6.55

Flop: ($33.40) 6 5 4 (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $14.40 all in, CO calls $14.40

Turn: ($62.20) K (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($62.20) 3 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $62.20
CO shows 8s 3s (a flush, King high)
BTN shows Qh Kh (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Ah As (a pair of Aces)
CO wins $27.45
CO wins $31.75
(Rake: $3.00)
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10-11-2009 , 03:08 AM
what did you expect?
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10-11-2009 , 03:10 AM
shove? or at least KK or QQ JJ maybe..
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10-11-2009 , 03:10 AM
lawl pod odds
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10-11-2009 , 03:12 AM
you play micro stakes with the Saturday ******s seriously what do you expect
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10-11-2009 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lnternet
you play micro stakes with the Saturday ******s seriously what do you expect
no wonder I always busto on weekends....
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10-11-2009 , 03:42 AM
Why the F**K did you flat right there, good god, how bad can you play? You were setting the most idiotic trap i've ever seen.

Instead of taking his $11 dead money in the pot/$25 stack, you decided, hey lets let him see a flop and then shove.....................................
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10-11-2009 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by neal41835
Why the F**K did you flat right there, good god, how bad can you play? You were setting the most idiotic trap i've ever seen.

Instead of taking his $11 dead money in the pot/$25 stack, you decided, hey lets let him see a flop and then shove.....................................
maybe because he'll probably stack off with any pair or a marginal draw on the flop?

obv shoving preflop makes it easier and eliminates any chance of a suckout. doesn't make it more profitable though.
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10-11-2009 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hooheehaa
maybe because he'll probably stack off with any pair or a marginal draw on the flop?

obv shoving preflop makes it easier and eliminates any chance of a suckout. doesn't make it more profitable though.
Letting an extra person draw at you for $14 when the pot is sitting @ $45 is so far from +EV imo. Shove it in, PPs/Marginals get odds to call that preflop, if they are stupid enough to flat $11, they will stack off $14 lightly too, you are getting a call way more often preflop than post flop from donkeys.
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10-11-2009 , 03:49 AM
so let me get this down

you flatted to induce the thing that villain did

and then posted in BBV about what an idiot villain was for doing what he did

what does that say about your bet?
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10-11-2009 , 04:21 AM
Why didn't you shove? He did have reasonable odds to call even if it was a mistake.
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10-11-2009 , 04:51 AM
sorry dude I had a read
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10-11-2009 , 04:55 AM
[x] confirmed crackhead
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10-11-2009 , 05:10 AM
You flat called to attempt to get him to come along right? So he did and this is what happens sometimes.

Your play was not that bad, because if he paired on the flop at all he had to stack off. You just got unlucky that's all, you should be thrilled you were able to commit a guy to 40% of his stack pf when you have AA and he has 83s.

Melina
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10-11-2009 , 05:18 AM
I think that it's slightly higher EV to flat call there and allow the other person in. At the time CO wasn't pot committed so a shove will make him fold almost all hands, if you flat call and shove flop he is getting ok odds preflop with suited connectors and random high cards. If he has any piece of the flop he will be pot committed to your push. He will hit 2pair or a good draw what? 10% of the time?

Anybody who would rather picking up an almost guaranteed 11$ over a still almost guaranteed 36$ in the case of an over call really doesn't understand how strong AA is in Hold'em.

PS. OP you are a tool for posting this thread, very standard playing especially at cheeseburgers.
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10-11-2009 , 05:21 AM
Apparently you do as well as some microNL donk you played against.
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10-11-2009 , 10:00 AM
83s, obviously.
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10-11-2009 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by speedyworm
i'm pretty sure if i shoved he'd still called based on what hes doing.

Then shove no?

To answer the thread title, you do.
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10-11-2009 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tony_montana
To answer the thread title, you do.
hahaha. Awesome.

But doesn't stars make you call/fold in this spot...?? As in we can't raise. Or is that some other time? Or would that happen if we had pos on CO and CO flatted the 4bet...?
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10-11-2009 , 10:35 AM
i don't like this hand
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10-11-2009 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by qazikm2000
hahaha. Awesome.

But doesn't stars make you call/fold in this spot...?? As in we can't raise. Or is that some other time? Or would that happen if we had pos on CO and CO flatted the 4bet...?
"In no-limit and pot limit, less than a full raise does not reopen the betting to a player who already has acted."

Not the case here.
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10-11-2009 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by neal41835
Why the F**K did you flat right there, good god, how bad can you play? You were setting the most idiotic trap i've ever seen.

Instead of taking his $11 dead money in the pot/$25 stack, you decided, hey lets let him see a flop and then shove.....................................
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10-11-2009 , 11:00 AM
OP sucks hard imo.

due to his thought prozess
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10-11-2009 , 11:06 AM
Too much ****ing strat in BBV

gtfo
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10-11-2009 , 03:57 PM
5* thread lol
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