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**669k hands in 31 days? nah, HOTDOG PROPBET INTEREST** **669k hands in 31 days? nah, HOTDOG PROPBET INTEREST**

01-31-2011 , 04:23 PM
impossible eh lol


if you can do 14 then you could do 16 imo
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01-31-2011 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
impossible eh lol


if you can do 14 then you could do 16 imo
its very unlikely i can maintain 14 hours/day at constant 24 tabling as fast I could go nonstop all day for 31days with absolutely 0 time to waste AND show profit. hence the 5 to 1 im already stretchin the limits, attempting to break any monthly record in the world in online poker. oh, unless i include chirens unverified 1 mill hands at 2nl that his team worked on.
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01-31-2011 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
impossible eh lol


if you can do 14 then you could do 16 imo
Nice pick up line
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01-31-2011 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne
its very unlikely i can maintain 14 hours/day at constant 24 tabling as fast I could go nonstop all day for 31days with absolutely 0 time to waste AND show profit. hence the 5 to 1 im already stretchin the limits, attempting to break any monthly record in the world in online poker. oh, unless i include chirens unverified 1 mill hands at 2nl that his team worked on.

dont let team chiren hear you say things like that lol
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01-31-2011 , 04:49 PM
gl subscribing
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01-31-2011 , 06:48 PM
Good luck. This looks like a solid prop bet. Would love to bet against but 5-1 is long (not saying the price is wrong, but I don't like betting that long). Hope you win!
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01-31-2011 , 08:09 PM
Good luck.
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01-31-2011 , 08:22 PM
any action still available on this?
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01-31-2011 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Silent_0ne
Reserve List:
Kardnel - 4k
JudyIsApunk - 2k
bandonlooper1 - 0.5k
MindGamez - 1k
calvinzorr - 5k
Pleex - 15k
mrdurdenptp - 1k
borgsex - 1k
mdm13 - 1k
Gorilla Boy - 2k
toony - 1k
d7o1d1s0 - 1.5k
galen - 7k
linzeelowhan - 1k
junkmail3 - 1.5k
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total = 44.5k

bettors on reserve list have up to 48 hours to escrow their reserved bets. after that timeframe, other interested players may place bets.

ESCROW INSTRUCTIONS:

Full Tilt: HibachiMahi, Fish, R (PREFERRED OPTION!)
Stars: HibachiMahi, Republic

Please PM Jalexand42 or post in the thread when you ship so he can confirm. Please note the rules regarding unknowns with no play history on PTR.

Payment notes:

1. If he fails, payment will be made to you on the site you escrowed on, minus the 1% fee.

2. If you escrow on Stars, be aware that my transfer limits are the defaults since I never actively played on Stars. I will attempt to increase my transfer limits at the close of the prop bet to ship money as fast as possible, but be aware that if Stars does not cooperate, I will do the best I can to ship to everyone in the most timely manner possible.

Beginning of the bet will take place after all money is escrowed and silent_0ne plays his 1st hand of 100nl.
just bumping and editing the reserve list. a couple people pmed me asking to be removed from list due to problems depositing onto fulltilt/stars. unfortunately they had 5k and 10k. also 2 others thought i meant 100% fullring like waterfall was going to do but i would like the 6max option available if fullring does not go well.

anyways, all action isnt reserved anymore. up to 21k available for being sent to escrowed by anyone who sends first and has it confirmed.

700k hands in a month with 0$+ profit at 100nl 5 to 1.


last prop bet at 50 and 100nl i was a loser of 180k hands with 800-900 hands/hour average 12 tabling. im not experienced, and have done no tests towards this prop bet. im no pro at this like chicagojoey or waterfall

my poker friends do not think I have a chance in this bet. my action originally got filled in 24 hours...im kinda marketing myself to just get on with this and fill up all action asap but there is no hustle here or anything. this is near impossible and torturous i rly would hope it can all be escrowed within 3 days so I can get on with this or before I change my mind and give up. however, I am a prop bet degen and i never give up ! (except twice)

Last edited by Silent_0ne; 01-31-2011 at 09:06 PM. Reason: give hope? give up...
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01-31-2011 , 09:10 PM
Would love to put up some money here, but unfortunately I'm running a little dry

BUT, I will be following along. Good luck Silent.
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01-31-2011 , 10:32 PM
Hey Silent_0ne, I'm also going to be pulling out my 5k bet for a couple reasons.

1) I bet under the assumption this was going to be 100+bb full ring only.

2)

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just to let you all know, trying to complete 700k hands at only fullring IS impossible. there is no way I can play 16 hours/day. given the option to mix in some fullring and 6max is near impossible. im expected to play 14 hours/day AND show a profit for 31 days straight if Im expected to win this.
You say 700k hands at FR is impossible because it would be 16hrs/day, but if you planned on already doing 14hrs/day, the extra 2 hours wouldnt make or break the bet. Not to mention you won your last prop bet getting 8-1 and 10-1 odds for a substantial amount of money, which most of BBV thought it was impossible. So I'd say 'impossible' doesnt hold true for a sick degen like you

3)

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i dont plan on shortstacking and expect to have 100bb+ the entire time. however i like the freedom of having any option available if needed.
While you seem like a good and honorable guy, with 77k+ worth of money on the line, a small part of me is forced to assume that you'll want to take the most +EV line for this bet, which would be to shortstack 6max this whole bet. You can get ~2400 hands per hour doing this, which would mean 9.37 hrs a day grinding for you. While this is hardly easy, it is not even close to being worth the 5-1 odds you're asking for.

4) You had like what, 20k+ worth of action pulling out within the first day of creating this new thread with the clarified terms, which means some of the 'big betters' (and probably the smarter portions of your betters) betting against you thought it would be a bad bet, which gives me another reason to pull out.



GL though if this prop bet goes down
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01-31-2011 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by calvinzorr
GL though if this prop bet goes down
ty

hey, with regards to your points...
1. cant say much about that, sorry for confusion
2. 14 hours/day is the borderline insanity which is very unlikely id pull off, 16 hours/day is impossible. i sleep lots, and i couldnt live with 7 hours of sleep/day. (7 hours assuming I have 1 hour to setup grind, eat, bathroom)
3. if thats the case for your discouragement, there would be no problem adding a clause that says I must buyin full the entire time (considering that was my original plan). i have no idea how to shortstack like how waterfall has little experience at 6max so excluded that from his terms.
4. 11k of action includin yours pulled out because they believe it would be a bad bet. the other 2 bettors backed out for reasons listed in private messages

at this point, ive been so discouraged and no one has confidence in me completing this. my problem was picking a field to challenge myself where others have alot more experience in. (multi tabling) people like chicagojoey can do these type of things alot easier than I can and its caused a couple people to overrate my potential to succeed in this challenge.

i'm not going to continue unless I get more action or the bet is altered. how would people feel about me going back to waterfalls bet, having to play 600k hands at 100nl fullring only for 3 to 1 odds?
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01-31-2011 , 11:57 PM
Hey dont meant to discourage you man, I'll actually be rooting for you during this bet bro.

Just for the record, Waterfall's bet isnt going down, he got like 1k in action, so if you wanted to do that format, you will need to either play more hands, or give better odds.

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Originally Posted by WaterFall21
i have very lttile agaisnt me atm, like maybe 1k need lot more than that
And 700k hands of FR at 1650 hands/hr would be 13.7hrs/day, not the 16hrs you think. Thats another reason asking 5-1 is to much I think.
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02-01-2011 , 12:04 AM
^ lol..... marshal000 > silent_0ne..... silent 12 tables normally and hasnt even been a proven winner at the stars 100 nl games...marshal000 has played like 4 million hands and has wayyyyyy more experience than silent... silent has been a winner with rakeback on microgaming. i dont understand how 5-1 isnt fair.
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02-01-2011 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by the_most10
^ lol..... marshal000 > silent_0ne..... silent 12 tables normally and hasnt even been a proven winner at the stars 100 nl games...marshal000 has played like 4 million hands and has wayyyyyy more experience than silent... silent has been a winner with rakeback on microgaming. i dont understand how 5-1 isnt fair.
UMMMMMM pretty sure binking 50nl weeks into month and under tremendous pressure is indicative of some skill. guy is straight up hustler,

marshall is baller tho and would be more fun to watch then random euro hustler.
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02-01-2011 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by calvinzorr
And 700k hands of FR at 1650 hands/hr would be 13.7hrs/day, not the 16hrs you think. Thats another reason asking 5-1 is to much I think.
ive done so little testing on this bet which is pathetic, but based off what ive heard, 1650 hands/hour is 24 tabling all fast tables at PEAK time. meaning when i start up a session, play for 4 hours, the 2 hours in the middle would be running at 1650 hands/hour if I were even able to attempt 24 tabling all fast tables. i cant see myself averaging any less than 16 hours/day for 31 days straight if I had to complete 700k hands at fullring. keep in mind, this is assuming im a robot. think about 3-4 days after the bet starts, starring at a screen for even 12 hours/day trying to maintain full concentration playing at your maximum speed possible 24 tabling and trying to show any kind of profit. this all seems unrealistic and honestly if I were to offer any less than 5 to 1 on my current bet it feels like burning money.

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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
UMMMMMM pretty sure binking 50nl weeks into month and under tremendous pressure is indicative of some skill. guy is straight up hustler,

marshall is baller tho and would be more fun to watch then random euro hustler.
i ran hot at 50nl. i didnt win it. i felt apart and was on the verge of losing if I didn't buyout.

i have another prop bet though. ill win the 25, 50, and 100nl UGL badges in the month while achieving 700k hands at either stakes. ill also eat 450 hot dogs in the month. can i get 5 to 1 please.

truth is, BBV wants to be guarnateed victory before betting. on my part i really just love the thrill of a challenge and competiton. i enjoy stretching my limits to see what is possible. im nothing special, no hustler, just a degenerate. it didnt take me long to get through my 20k profit from december during january and now i just want to prop bet
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02-01-2011 , 12:26 AM
We dont even know when this bet his happening, and Silent already stated he was going to practice multi tabling in the interest thread. And I already said, Marshal000 got 1k in action in 6 days... so obv no1 this its a good bet. Not sure if you followed Silent's last prop bet, but he was getting 8-1 and 10-1 on a bet everyone thought was impossible, and was crushing it before every1 offered him an extremely generous buy out that he accepted.
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02-01-2011 , 12:28 AM
no one had a clue who he was
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02-01-2011 , 12:31 AM
Fwiw silent, I feel bad for questioning your integrity, I was extreamly sympathetic towards you during the whole Fees fiasco, but because of the nature of this bet, I'm being the devils advocate.
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02-01-2011 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by calvinzorr
Fwiw silent, I feel bad for questioning your integrity, I was extreamly sympathetic towards you during the whole Fees fiasco
np lol

fwiw, i think this bet is kinda lame. it requires ridicilous volume and managing to show profit but it just doesnt have that spark i desire in prop bets. i only made the interest thread within 10 minutes of the idea popping to my head. 0 testing, still no testing besides specutalive calculations and this 1 session



i posted the thread cause i saw waterfall switch from his 600k hand thread to 25nl and 50nl UGL badges in a month bet, which I had on my mind and wanted to do. so in return i just wanted to take his idea without knowing what i was getting into

i think this bet is too difficult for me to try and attempt without all the action required. i guess people think otherwise and I can't compromise here. I started off with the interest thread at 5 to 1, and people filled that action within 24 hours, usually they drop down the odds before betting but when they didnt I realized I was in over my head. im sure I could still get the action required if I waited around long enough but i'm too anxious to get things started/organized so i'm considering this a failure. next time i'll just make another nice and interesting prop bet rather then some repeat/same old bet.

i'll be back.
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02-01-2011 , 12:54 AM
So this bet is officially canceled? Sorry if what I said ruined it for ya, I was actually looking forward to sweating you lol
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02-01-2011 , 01:07 AM
Keep it at full ring only and the action will be there

and 475 hot dogs...we'll compromise.
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02-01-2011 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by calvinzorr
So this bet is officially canceled? Sorry if what I said ruined it for ya, I was actually looking forward to sweating you lol
i mean, i feel people dont want to get involved after some bettors dropout. really wat happened was 3j55 withdrew 5k, and 2 other bettors withdrew 5k and 10k which had nothing to do with the difficulty of the bet but one case was "something came up" and another was "it will take me two weeks to deposit, too much of a hassle".

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Originally Posted by King Fish
Keep it at full ring only and the action will be there

and 475 hot dogs...we'll compromise.
lol, too easy. give me a harder challenge

btw, something interesting, throughout the last few days ive talked with 4 of my closest poker buddies who know more about my poker game then any1 on here. i just asked there honest opinions while having the interest thread posted. i gathered together all 4 conversations, screenshot from start to finish of relavancy and didnt edit anything but blackin out name and postin in weird sections cuz screenshots didnt go thro whole text.

these are what my affiliate, 2 other poker friends irl and staker thought about my bet respectively. (and nothing was staged/fake) just so people dont think this is a hustle because I do feel kinda bummed out how 2+2 is seemingly turning down a prop bet that needs to break a world record with profit in order to be accomplished!


good buddy online/affiliate to my euro site

know irl from poker (respected midstakes player

poker buddy, known my entire life

staker, bet 15k against me

i guess if there were anything to hide, the 4 people who know me most about poker all think i cant do it. im no 24 tabling 100nl expert. all ive done in poker is beat some euro donks 10 tabling max
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02-01-2011 , 02:10 AM
Not sure how u feel about this, but if the bet was 5-1 696969 hands at FR only, and no shortstacking, my bet would still be on the table, and maybe 3j55's bet too (I'm guessing he pulled out because of similar reasons I did). Then you got your challenge :P
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02-01-2011 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by calvinzorr
Not sure how u feel about this, but if the bet was 5-1 696969 hands at FR only, and no shortstacking, my bet would still be on the table, and maybe 3j55's bet too (I'm guessing he pulled out because of similar reasons I did). Then you got your challenge :P
And il probably interested in betting a few K also
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