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Old 03-16-2010, 03:44 PM   #61
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

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Who is zachvac? Also if he were to get someone to play the 30k hands for him, unless the bettors know what gary looks like won't it be kind of ineffective for verification?
IF I do get my webcam going (which is dependent on various things since my internet connection may not actually be fast enough to support that), then you'll have to take my word that its me playing yeah?

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Booked at 3-1 to my favor:
terp 3k (or more) (3k confirmed by escrow)
mythrilfox 750
hellokittery 600
lemming 300 (confirmed by escrow)
Pocket Watch 300
BoC34 300 (confirmed by escrow)
spacecakezzz/Gene Fish 750
Verstehen ???
Th3_S1aught3r - The rest?

Looks like I'll be fully booked fairly (2.5k) soon once I confirm the numbers from The_Slaughter and Verstehan.

Also looking for 3rd party escrows/judges if required by bettors.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:50 PM   #62
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

yeah sorry gary i'm out actually. i thought about it a bit, i'm a pretty crappy grinder and i think if i chugged some adderall i could do it well over 25% of the time, so i imagine you'd be able to as well. good luck though!
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:51 PM   #63
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Not to accuse OP of anything, but a prop like this has tons of room for trickery. A couple friends dumping a couple buyins to him almost ensures victory.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:51 PM   #64
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i'm out too, gl gary, I'm sure someone will take the action.

edit re: the last post, you do realize he has to play 30,000 hands right, and that is much more difficult than breaking even over a session at 1/2?

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Old 03-16-2010, 03:52 PM   #65
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

Booked at 3-1 to my favor:
terp 3k (or more) (3k confirmed by escrow)
hellokittery 600
lemming 300 (confirmed by escrow)
Pocket Watch 300
BoC34 300 (confirmed by escrow)
spacecakezzz/Gene Fish 750
Th3_S1aught3r - The rest?

About 2.25k in action left.

Looks like I'll be fully booked fairly (my 2.5k to BBV's 7.5k) soon once I confirm the numbers from The_Slaughter.

Also looking for 3rd party escrows/judges if required by bettors.

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Old 03-16-2010, 03:53 PM   #66
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

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Not to accuse OP of anything, but a prop like this has tons of room for trickery. A couple friends dumping a couple buyins to him almost ensures victory.
Right thats why all bettors may by all means appoint a 3rd party judge to monitor any suspicious activity on my end.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:54 PM   #67
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

to clarify, terp is booked via PM but not yet received. also OP already mentioned that he will send all HHs from pokerstars to any bettors to insure that nothing underhanded was done on his part. you all know my SN as well so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:21 PM   #68
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How does one go about inspecting hand histories? Without his account records its hard to say who he knows and who he doesn't know. Having 3-4 people dump even 2-3 buyins each gives him a huge safety net to be winning after 30k hands if he's a winning player.

Again I am not accusing OP because I don't know him at all, but I'm just wondering what safeguards exist? I have a bet on the 40k in a month thing because that seems much harder to rig one side or the other, but this one just seems like it has huge room for error if OP is unscrupulous.

I don't mean to derail or take away interest, but I think with decent amounts of money on the line the method of how judges check HH's should be clarified.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:24 PM   #69
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

wait a sec. I havent decided yet. How much are left?
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:31 PM   #70
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And to show that I mean no disrespect or accusing you of angling (more clarifying judging procedures), I'll take some action if any is left and you need it.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:51 PM   #71
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

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the identity of judges can be decided by the betters, i imagine it would be fair to have OP pick one, have the final betters pick one to represent them, and then to have a third party who is uninvolved. the rest is basically just up to judges discretion, since thats the point of a judge =\
I appreciate what the role of a judge is but it seems as if the issue of potential stalling, etc... is something that could be quantified beforehand. I could see a scenario where someone who has a stake in this has a friend hop on every table this guy is on and has them slowdown play using the fact that they are multitabling as an excuse to play slower.

One of you math majors can tell us how much damage one person could do slowing down x numbers of tables for y amount of time.

Just throwing it out there. It's an interesting prop and I wish OP well in it.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:28 PM   #72
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i don't think slowing down play will make that big of a difference because he'll be playing 15+ tables probably...if anything, it'll give him a few more seconds to make good decisions. chip dumping would be the worst scenario I can imagine.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:31 PM   #73
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

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wait a sec. I havent decided yet. How much are left?
assuming terp still wants his 3k to 1k, it seems like there is 3.9k to 1.3k still available. although, if some of the people who spoke up earlier still want there shares, it might be slightly less.

edit: just say gary's post above, those are the names of ppl who still have action reserved. only confirmed are lemming and boc34 for 300 each, terp likely for 3k
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:31 PM   #74
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Re: **** 30k hands in a day + profit on 200nl 6m prop bet***

Is this actually hard to do at 6M?

I don't play short-handed, but many of the winning FR regs could do this very easily.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:35 PM   #75
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How does one go about inspecting hand histories? Without his account records its hard to say who he knows and who he doesn't know. Having 3-4 people dump even 2-3 buyins each gives him a huge safety net to be winning after 30k hands if he's a winning player.

Again I am not accusing OP because I don't know him at all, but I'm just wondering what safeguards exist? I have a bet on the 40k in a month thing because that seems much harder to rig one side or the other, but this one just seems like it has huge room for error if OP is unscrupulous.

I don't mean to derail or take away interest, but I think with decent amounts of money on the line the method of how judges check HH's should be clarified.
i just meant the judges could import the 30k hands into their database and search for all the big pots or whatever, and check to see if some unusual 100bb+ wins occur.
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