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KeanuReaver · 03-24-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

There is no faulty logic you idiot, I investigated suspicious activity. That's 100% standard AND I posted my investigative process in this thread.

Do you think cops investigate EVERY PERSON that someone knows or only the people that were involved/related to suspicious activity?

christ this thread tilts the **** out of me
answer this: is the QQ vs T7 hand strictly gary vs breeezzzz or could breeezzzz be any random scrub?

KeanuReaver · 03-24-2010, 02:53 PM

i really hope this crushes prop betting on 2p2 and bbv, the fact that an impartial judge is calling me names for pointing out a very clear lapse in logic that most of this thread has committed is unbearable

donkeykong2 · 03-24-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

Over the 49,974 hands that PTR has between March 8th and the his post soliciting the prop bet, OP was down $6,459.10, for a net loss of $0.13 per hand.

Definitely a prop bet I'd be looking to take if I was already down 32 buyins in five days.

It also appears to me that from his PTR front screen and 'last played' data, he's played basically nothing but 1/2nl in 2010, meaning he's down something like $15-20k at 1/2 THIS YEAR. Obviously he might be getting great bonuses from Stars, but those don't count in this bet.

This entire situation just doesn't pass the smell test in light of the weird players showing up with a connection to OP's friend.

OP: Did anyone else have part of your action in the bet?

he claimed to be running a lot below ev in his ptr comments so maybe he thought he could use his bad stats there to get good odds on such a bet?

**jalexand42** · 03-24-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KeanuReaver

christ this thread tilts the **** out of me

+1

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Originally Posted by KeanuReaver

answer this: is the QQ vs T7 hand strictly gary vs breeezzzz or could breeezzzz be any random scrub?

It was heads up between them, Gary opens button to $6, breeezzz 3 bets to $20 in the sb, Gary raises to $48, and breeezzz shoves for $200.

**jalexand42** · 03-24-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KeanuReaver

i really hope this crushes prop betting on 2p2 and bbv, the fact that an impartial judge is calling me names for pointing out a very clear lapse in logic that most of this thread has committed is unbearable

lol, so tell me how you would have investigated this Mr. Wizard (without using faulty logic).

You have the T7o hand and the 68o hand to start with (since BlackIze reviewed Gary's hands vs breeezzz). Good luck.

KeanuReaver · 03-24-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

+1

It was heads up between them, Gary opens button to $6, breeezzz 3 bets to $20 in the sb, Gary raises to $48, and breeezzz shoves for $200.

i know what the ****ing hand says
COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED ONLY AGAINST BREEEZZZZ OR COULD IT HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN ANY RANDOM SCRUB

donkeykong2 · 03-24-2010, 03:02 PM

i also just looked up stoppedclocked's biggest losing hands. once he had 7j on a 4568q board losing to the nuts 79 that didnt raise the river for his last 40 bucks or so.. how suspicious would that look in a propbet? op wasnt at that table btw.
the next hand someone opens aq, gets 3b, stoppedclock 4 bets all in with ak to 64 or so. aq guy goes all in, and gets called by ak for the side pot.
so i look up like 10 hands there and 2 of them look very suspicious at first glance.

KeanuReaver · 03-24-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

lol, so tell me how you would have investigated this Mr. Wizard (without using faulty logic).

You have the T7o hand and the 68o hand to start with (since BlackIze reviewed Gary's hands vs breeezzz). Good luck.

it's not about how you investigate
it's about not being illogical with your results

MEATBALLS ALLIN · 03-24-2010, 03:06 PM

Whatever comes of this Jalex and Black should never be allowed to judge again

waow · 03-24-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KeanuReaver

i know what the ****ing hand says
COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED ONLY AGAINST BREEEZZZZ OR COULD IT HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN ANY RANDOM SCRUB

haha wow, this is your point of contention? have you not read anything jalex has pointed out?

elduderino · 03-24-2010, 03:10 PM

Jalexand42, I really think you are doing a ****ing amazing job. With that being said, I would really hope you take the time to write out a very long very detailed judgement which ever way it goes to explain both your thought process in making the decision.

As a side note, is he guilty until proven innocent, or innocent until proven guilty?

KeanuReaver · 03-24-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by waow

haha wow, this is your point of contention? have you not read anything jalex has pointed out?

...no this isn't my only point of contention, but it's the one im discussing right now
have you not read anything i've pointed out?

optionsguy · 03-24-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexand42

lol, so tell me how you would have investigated this Mr. Wizard (without using faulty logic).

You have the T7o hand and the 68o hand to start with (since BlackIze reviewed Gary's hands vs breeezzz). Good luck.

jalex, i know you spend a good bit of time in the msnl threads and you know that even at 400-600nl hands like these happen on a regular basis, esp amongst "friends". not saying i think gary is innocent cause it's def shady but this hand is def not indicative of collusion.

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Originally Posted by MEATBALLS ALLIN

Whatever comes of this Jalex and Black should never be allowed to judge again

wrong, without jalex and blackize gary would have been shipped the money a few days ago and none of this shady stuff, which definitely needed to be investigated, would have come up

KeanuReaver · 03-24-2010, 03:13 PM

i think jalex has done an amazing job as well and i feel that im being unfairly hard on him but no one is really arguing on behalf of gary and some things definitely need to be said

optionsguy · 03-24-2010, 03:14 PM

blackize, i'd really like to stop reading this thread cause it's such a ****ing trainwreck. can you tell me if you and the other judges are going to base your decision on the stars' findings, jalex's findings, a combination or what?

i'd really like to stop having to come back in here and read all the retarded posting that has been going on.