give gary his money. he won.

the internet be the wild west gotta round em up and lynch em ourselves or they aint bein brough to justice

I'm so confused how you can possibly take the win away from him my anazlying 2 hands and peoples posts lol...lmao you idiots must be from europe

all bettors deserve to lose for not making a webcam necessary lmao so gg bettors

Good point. Maybe give him a little extra too, for all the inconvenience he's been caused.

They are completely standard shortstack hands. He didn't spew off 100BB with air back in June. Nothing wrong with putting your stack in with 20BB over two limpers with 33. I don't see anything wrong with the other hands either. Where are you getting the idea that he 'spewed' cash back in June when there is no evidence of spew? The biggest hand he lost cost him less than 50BB when he raised a donk bet allin versus a halfstack who had Q9 on a QhQdTd board. Nothing wrong with doing that with a flush or straight draw which is by far his most likely holding. The guy is a nit with an understanding of the game, he's not some kind of maniac.

"He spewed large chunks of money"...Did he now? His biggest losses back in June were 46BB, 30BB, 23BB, 21BB and 10BB pots. And there is no evidence he spewed in any of them.

That is completely different from throwing it allin for 100BB with T7o. Completely different.

It's you who is trying skewing things to make it seem like the session back in June can be anyway compared to what he did on the day of the prop bet. I dont appreciate being accused of 'flat out lying'. He did not BLOW the cash on June 20th, he lost a couple of smallish pots playing shortstacked.

Also, the idea that people dumped to Gary to sabotage him when he already was going to lose, where he would end up winning unless their own involvement was revealed and would end up getting their accounts possibly locked, is a bit of a stretch. Incase anyone still is entertaining that idea.

post #one thousand nine hundred ****ing something

thanks for contributing

Yeah, reading those posts now gives you a whole new perspective. Definitely some super shady stuff there.

lmfao at another of gary's gimmick accounts

and add interest

Why are they not defending themselves? Because, they're guilty! The innocent would defend themselves to the hills. Jeez, it's so obvious they're FOS, the scum bags.

Ship the betters their money, insta ban the accused and confiscate their stars monies...

I can get them banned from DtD too if anyone can provide pics?

Pitch forks and torches at the ready boys.

What's DtD?



Also, anyone have any idea why Gary's blog, Facebook picture, and weaktight friends all the sudden disappeared if he's innocent?

Surely he knows I already have screenshots of all of that, right?

He was up ~$115 with 190 hands left and folded the rest of the hands.

lol, getting more and more obvious every day.

Once again, great work sir.

DtD = DuskTillDawn - "europes premier poker venue" based in england where I believe these scammers are from.

Well, one of them is 'from' England, although he is quite the globe trotter....I'll keep the others' locations secret for now.

Holla if you need to, I can add The Vic and The Gutshot to that list in London, amongst others.

A+ for your efforts Jalex!

The point is, you know ONE HAND of 19, and you're calling them all standard. You're guessing, but you're passing it off as fact.
I'm not an expert short stacker, but someone help me out here, whats easier to do, lose 1 and 3/4 full BIs in 34 hands full stacking, or lose 1 1/5 BIs short stacking over 19 hands? In my opinion both sessions are spews.


Neg. Tis I that am merely reporting the facts, sir. And if you don't want to be accused of flat out lying, don't lie. You cannot see 18 of his 19 holdings, you have no clue how he played, and I'm pretty sure his winrate short stacking was worse than his winrate 'chip dumping' full stack.

PS - just curious, as, again, I'm not an expert on short stacking - are you saying its normal for someone playing well to lose 5+ all ins in 19 hands, short stacking, for over a full buy in?

He was playing over his head. He lost $219.75 in 19 hands playing 1/2NL on June 20th, 2009. Those are the facts, draw whatever conclusions you want from them, but don't say it didn't happen because you want to say that this was his first time losing money at 200NL.

I think people are pointing to the fact that at one point, with like 1000 hands left, he was up a pretty decent amount.

I guess if one were cynical, which I'm not, they might say that Gary kept pushing it at that point because he wanted to finish so far above $.01 profit so people wouldn't go into great deal looking at HH and what not.

I get your enjoying your moment in the sun, but can you cut it with the sort of creepish edge in your posts. Again me and 2p2 really appreciate the time you've taken on this but the smugness is really getting old.imo

lol, jalex u r so gangster

jalex, do u know if roseeker is a winning sng player? I find it strange the reason he said he MA 2+2 is he doesn't want people to see his losing stats on PTR. If he's also a losing sng player, he could potentially be scamming students. If there's students out there with a bad story to tell, I would like to hear it.

I don't know, but here's the problem that's sticking with me - everything surrounding this looks worse and worse, I'll be the first to admit that - but if this all ends with you guys announcing its over because of Gary cheating - well, that'll pretty much ruin Gary in the online poker community, and could result in him losing his accounts, etc...

Which, I guess, is why I'm erring on the side of being damn sure before someone gets ruined. (his friend(s), on the other hand, seem to deserve a good ruining, but maybe Gary wants to handle that himself, in person, for all the **** that's gone down)

late to the party, but this deserves more love. I was rolling a joint when I read this and almost spit beer all over my screen. nice one!

give gary his money. he won...unless pokerstars say there was anything going on

are you gary's friend/alt account?

why did gary remove his blog and facebook?