OP makes a statement that he is behind. I counter that with there is no reason to think he is behind with these two opponents and should be more aggressive. I prove to be correct and you give me a rash of crap. Lol, you are a donkey for sure.

I must say that at least for me, not reading Marston's posts requires even more discipline than not uncaging a zoo stack. I really tried to impose a rule to completely ignore his posts just to save the time, but I miserably fail at that as the entertainment value is huge.

I have no problem and rather encourage those on this forum who feel as you do to just not read my posts. Of course if they entertain you you should by all means read them. But I just don't get why anyone would reply to my posts if they feel the way you do. I think you should just do a you always do. Post only with those that agree with you. Your chest willl feel bigger that wy. Hey I forgot about the ignore list. You should use it. I just put you on mine. Cool.

Look I tested the ignore list. I put Amor32 on it. Guess what it works great. Anything he posts miraculously does not appear when i surf. you and DD should try it. Put Marston on yours and bang no more posts from him. It's marvelous darling.

Interesting hand Jesse. I think its a nice little spot for something like this given player descriptions and combo counting. Results aside, I would not expect KK to get folded very often at all in this 16-bet pot, poor hand-reading skillz aside, but as you argued, its kind of a free-roll if they never bluff-raise you and you can fold to a raise.

Also, Marston with his most advanced level yet with the "skeletons in the closet" confused with MUBS reference.

That was what he said "Monsters Under The Bed" I thought it was silly like skeletons in the closet but I couldn't Remember it exactly. You must know my buddy too. I wonder why I am now the focus of the thread? Really.

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NH Jesse. I love the river line. So creative, so instinctive. Probably a better blog post than a strat post though.

"In which I own a lost soul"

Jesse, just curious as I think its interesting, what do you do on the river if EP is an expert?

And I magically played the hand exactly the same way? I probably c/c. But I'm not sure and everything would be different I think. The telegram on the initial flop raise is so key....

Thanks for posting this.

At game speed I would not be able to make this move. But in reality it is sick.

I guess what I find most interesting is the Live Midstakes Psychology, which causes EP to take an action that narrows you down to one single (illogical) hand.

He asked you "AK?" after you bet the river after just calling the whole way. This does not mean your hand looked like AK before this occurrence. He's not thinking you are putting some sick move on with QQ/KK because quite frankly thats pretty advanced. So of course hes going to say "AK?" What else would he say? "97s?" "AA" "KK"? Its the only logical guess for him to make.

with recreational players, there is also a decent chance they think he holds AA and was scared of 99

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Hey, Did you really study conflict resolution? Hahahahaha Now that is funny! Didn't quite understand the subject now did you? Kinda like your poker studying. I plonk you back, bye!

This kind of gets at the reason I posted the hand; it's not super interesting, as Mr John champion of the deuce to seven Locke has already stated (well done btw). The point of the hand was to illustrate the concept I mentioned in a thread a little while ago, the idea of staying light on your feet during a hand. The question "was my river play premeditated" was a good one also, and I have to admit it was not. During the course of a hand as players drop out, ranges narrow, and the board grows drastic u-turns of strategy can be required. In a sense this is probably the only part of "many way, exploitative, big pot" poker that is actually more difficult than "heads up three bet pots vs experts" poker.

I have seen live players who seem to have had amazing results for a long time (MikeL comes to mind, obviously, but there are others included) do stuff like this rather frequently. It's very, very hard, and I felt like I took a (perhaps misguided) crack at doing it in this hand. The next time you play, try to stay light on you feet during every hand you play; look for spots where drastic u-turns could show big profits, and don't be afraid to try them out.

We're all here to make money, but if you stop learning and the game isn't fun anymore, you won't last long

That's why I only gave him 1/2. The guy who folded the other two kings though...he thought I had the ace king. These people....they aren't good at poker. I mean, I'm ****ing TERRIBLE and I still tend to beat them on average despite the millions and millions of dollars I'm losing out by not chopping.

Good stuff, Jesse. I learned quite a bunch from this thread.

Nice. I am fascinated by this type of thing and it is one of the many reasons why I like NL so much more than limit. I get to do this multiple times every day and find spots were I spot an opportunity at the very last second. It doesn't always work but when it does it's amazing.

Same argument as before though, he saw you bet the ace on the river THEN said you had AK. The old white guy could be an exception of course because he is prolly bad and perhaps doesnt apply the same race/age labels like other LA players do.

A9s is also an option too.

are people giving you grief on not chopping? i got near angled at the bike last week when a guy verbally announced a chop then when i eventually mucked the SB (i delayed because summin smelled fishy) then tried to claim the pot when i mucked the SB lol. then the other day that little ****er D just rando started playing vs me in a full game. so basically **** em. play out of spite, im getting close to it.

D doesnt chop. At least that's my recollection.

And not people. Just armor. And Lawdude.

And you're right about the ace nine but I am still champion.

D looks like he came out of a shiny box that was opened on xmas morning in some household of a nine foot family.

also i saw him chop with another person that session. i also saw him play with somebody else too. maybe he has a line drawn and if he hates you he plays. i would have to admire that.

is champion a leslie reference? is he still alive. he kind of grew on me over time.

meh, I'm not a fan but you can't argue with results. nh I guess.

totally agree

I'm whatever on the river play - hard to defend on the forum but "had to be there" factor is high. But, I'm genuinely curious why we can't have AK here? I can't figure out where I would fold it?

heh, i was thinking the same but then again i am not used to playing with such extremely tight ranges.

about river I think if we had QQ a river donk is a lot sweeter