Congrats on the deep runs! Despite the (mostly serious) contempt lhe forum has for MTT, it's hard not to love the rush of playing limit/mix tourneys when you're itm and every little pot matters so much - it's complete opposite from normal cash games.

I think people were mostly saying there are better opportunities to make money at flhe than to play in this tough, small field tourney - not that you were specifically unqualified to play it. As long as it won't have lasting negative effect, I always root for people to take the shot.

I don't remember the 3k field being much tougher than the 1500 field. The 6max part scares off some of the rec players, but still a good amount in there looking to gamble, and all the tournament grinders are terrible at limit, but they are pretty good at knowing how to milk tiny stacks and knowing when to apply pressure late in the tournament.

nobody commented on your skill level at limit holdem or tournaments, they simply suggested if you plan to grind 8-16 for a year it's probably a better idea to take 20-40 or 40-80 shots or whatever than a relatively tough high variance 3k tourney.

if not cashing in the tournament has no affect on your ability to play bigger than 8-16 then I'm sure everybody would encourage it

Not only do I play more LHE, but I play a lot of live short-handed. I almost always stay in feeder games because I like when they get short - my edge just gets so much bigger.

I rely on cash games to make my living but the WSOP has been a game changer for me the last two years. Last year changed my life. I feel like this year just cemented the fact that I'm doing the right thing. Obviously I've been running way above average as far as cashing and results go, but it's no fluke either. I sell action and I don't try to play in huge events, so playing these tourneys have very little affect on my bottom line if things didn't go well. I just love the experience and holding my own against the best players in the world.

I'm way overrolled for 20/40 and I primarily play 8/16. Maybe no one made a direct remark about my ability but the vibe I picked up was that I was delusional to think I can just sit down in a 3K 6-max event and, well, that's a pretty ignorant sentiment to send out considering no one really knows anything about me - except that I MURDER 8/16, I had a great 2015 WSOP, and I only post my absolute worst hands on the forums (and maybe people think I suck because of that). I wasn't asking for advice, I was simply stating what events I had my eye on.

you posted a link to your blog/goals thread and asked people to take a look at it . if I recall it was something like play 2000 hours of 8-16 and then some 3k tournaments.

it's not crazy for somebody to.suggest rethinking entering tourneys where the buy in represents 200 hours of live cash winnings.

that doesn't mean you are not a favorite in the tourney or you shouldn't play it or sell action. if just means if you say my goals for next year are to play 2000 hours of 8-16 and a 3k tourney or two it's possible there are more EV approaches for the year that you possibly haven't considered. it doesn't mean you have to consider them and maybe just want to play for fun but it certainly doesn't hurt to listen to them or consider them.

of course I only play 4-8 so take my advise fwiw

Well this is really good to know. I'm a perfect example of one of those rec players.

When I see "6-max limit holdem" I think of online poker, and the best players in the world. That's why this event has never even been on my radar.

It's not that tough but you have to come to terms w the fact that 5-2 of the people at your table could be better or as good as you.


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why not 2-5? what made you go backwards with this set of numbers lol?

I went and read the blog post again and I can see how people could draw some incorrect conclusions.

I'm married - we don't need my income from poker to survive. At least not yet. I have built a very large bankroll for my stakes and my wife theoretically makes enough to pay our bills. Whether I lose 200 hours worth of 8/16 winnings is really irrelevant to our comfort level. Plus, a 3K event is more like 105 hours of 8/16 for me.

WSOP is the only time of year I really focus on playing tournaments and while having a bad series wouldn't be ideal, it's not really going to matter either, and my ability has clearly been worth the gamble. I've cashed 7 of my last 10 WSOP events - with two top 5 finishes - and I "punted" ten spots off the money in the $1500 HORSE last year and I was a level away from cashing the $1500 8-Game this year. Am I running good? Sure. But I think it's clear I can contend for bracelets.

Actually since March 1st of 2016, in addition to the WSOP success, I also have a WSOPc final table, an LAPC final table, a Rio Deep Stack title, an 8-Game title in the Grand Poker Series at Golden Nugget... all in a sample size of 50 total tournaments. Outside of the WSOP, I play about two tourneys a month, on average.

Regardless, my bankroll management is elite. I am as careful as anyone I've ever heard of. I could play in 40/80 games in LA or Vegas if
I wanted to, but I don't, because I feel like I have to crush 20/40 before I even think of doing that. Everybody keeps telling me to play the Main and it's like they are talking crazy to me. I have no desire to play a 10k event. I think 3Ks are doable, but I still haven't played anything bigger than $1500. I sold over 50% of my action last year in $1500s (but binked in a $565, $235, and $250) and this year I sold 40%. I wrote a list of events I'd be interested in, not a set-in-stone schedule.

And the sentiment, imo, was about talent, not about finances anyway.

I think JTs should fold preflop. I think the rest is standard except JTs should bet call the river for one but fold for two.

Alcohol.


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I think folding or reraising is fine. Kyle had a huge stack and was playing great, really applying pressure and forcing people to have hands. So the three bet was consistent with his strategy. In cash games, I frequently include JTss in my three betting range, so I don't disagree with his preflop play at all.

I mean his preflop is whatever but if he is gonna bet this flop texture 3 ways and also check that river than his preflop is awful. He simply can't play the hand profitably.

You should not 4 bet pre in a cash game either. You could CR flop but I'd say a mixed strategy is gonna be right. You could even lead flop sometimes imo.

I think you'll be fine in the 6 max, you'll either have good tables
Or you will get better at poker that's the way I look at the tougher events. I can always run good while learning!

Beginner question....

Why did the AJss not donk when given the opportunity to do so?
Does that scream fd and everyone will fold river if it hits?

If I were the BB i would cr...
If I were UTG I would donk
If checked to me ip, I cbet...

OTR I bet/call with top pair...

Am I just way to transparent here, given that the other players are better than I am?

Thanks!


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As a new player to FLHE and one who tends to overplay AK is all games, I get why this is not a 4bet OOP in a tournament but some q's:
- You 4bet AK suited in this exact spot?
- What is the reasoning for not 4betting AKo in this spot in a cash game?
- Would you 4bet AKo deep in a tournament in position? (e.g. CO or BU)

As a newb I dont cap unless heads up with a LAG who does not even care what my range is.


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I've gotten back to capping preflop when there's a major league drooler fish in the pot.

Example: I open MP, CO 3 bets, LP huge fish cold calls SB, I for sure have a capping range. Since fish's range is so wide, there's no guarantee or near-guarantee that he'll peel the flop, so we likely do miss value by not capping.

Heads up, I continue to just flat it all when I open from EP or MP. Against crazies, I'll 4 bet in late position..

Personally, i don't want the non fish to be able flat me otr with an underset that should pay off 2 or 3 extra BB on the river. I almost never ever cap pre.


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