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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Is TT really that great to play OOP vs 2 guys EP that raise and 3bet pf FR ?
I am really doubtful about this.
You are either crush or coin flip with tons of overcard that would make you fold the best hand a lot of the time imo
- live 40/80 players, IME, raise and three bet too much preflop
- live California players, from what I've gathered on here, raise and three bet too much preflop
- live players in general barrel turn way too much
Everything suggests we cap pre. Everything also suggests that someone has an ace and will bet turn. Even if we run into a flush, getting three bet 3-4 ways is pretty cheap.
W/R/T "being crushed or coinflip": totally untrue. Even if I give the two villains tighter ranges than I'm used to seeing, TT has 38% equity. In practice, it usually has much more as people show up w/ unexpected stuff in their raising and 3 betting ranges constantly. Plus, pairs play decent out of position postflop, relatively speaking, so I don't think we'll be forced to fold the winner all that often (yes sometimes UTG will raise to "see where he's at" on J92 with A9 and +1 will three town a combo draw and you'll fold the eventual winner, but really, if you're folding, it's probably because there's two ranks J or higher on board and no T).
"It's tough to play" isn't a good reason to not cap when there's value (a good reason is: I don't cap anything in the BB here because I want to play a few more hands and protect them with strong hands in my range). You'd cap AKo all day, right? Well AKo's equity isn't that much better than TT, and that's pretty difficult to play OOP when an A or K doesn't fall.