it is in the sense that it's more complicated to know your equity than in holdem and there's potential for it to create bigger edges

There isn't much bluffing other than to squeeze someone out of half. You need to have a high equity hand (either a two wayer, or high only in a high board), and occasionally find fold equity for half. If you're really good with the numbers, you get the monies.

You don't need to raise first in or 3bet an opener. You can do it, but specifically in low limit games you want the volume with your A2 type hands.

Does O8 still go on Ignition? I haven't found a game since the lobby change.

I've recently begun playing a fair amount of limit again after mostly NL the last several years. The game I play is 8/16, with a 3+3 rake structure, no flop no drop. I'm wondering what should be my button opening range, given that in the likely event of either blind defending, that's six bucks down the hole. It feels like A3o, K6o, etc are not auto opens.

^ do they take out all $6 right on the flop? Makes a difference if they do this or if it's gradual.

Yep, 3 each at $30

Well if they take it out max rake at $30, it doesn't matter.

Bellagio is the only place I've seen with a hugely different rake structure than max at $30.

80/160 mix, 7 handed, the game is currently 2-7 triple draw. Utg limps, fold to the button who limps, small blind raises, big blind folds, utg folds, button calls. Small blind draws 2, button draws 1.

And it was at that moment that I began to suspect that I would not return to online poker for quite some time, if ever.

WTF is wrong with America?

Why not? It feels to me like I should want to get involved less since a very large % of the pot is expected to be missing.

I think he meant that it doesn't matter at what points they take out each individual dollar, if it is maxed out at $30. Effectively it doesn't at 8/16 as a raised HU pot would already be over $30.

You should play tighter than you would in a timed game or a more gradual rake like at Bellagio. Actually you should play a bit tighter in all situations, but it matters more in small pots. You should defend your BB less often as well.

Those are adjustments I have made. However I'm not sure how tight, on average. Folding bad aces, kings, 76s?

But isn't the penis measuring battles for rakeback way more fun than playing people who routinely bomb off monthly salaries of upper middle class American families?

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Good to know.

Of course the government, being the awesome charity that it is, stops these things from happening.

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is how different live games actually play to online in games outside of FL. Like I play 20/40 FL and while people aren't experts, a lot of the regular / semi-regular players have at least gotten past the blatant errors (like they aren't limping ATS up front, aren't missing value bets w/ top pair because the 3rd flush card came in, etc). But playing 5/5 PLO, it's just amazing how the sea of gamblers change how that game is played entirely from how I play OL.

Ex: There's a raise to 20 and two calls, I elect to squeeze these guys deep on the BTN w/ A975 2s to 115 (there was a post in there), and dude in the BB turbo calls it all w/ some unconnected Q hi badugi hand. Now I know why even the good aggressive players tend to play passively pre in a lot of live PLO: it's just better to wait for a monster and start letting the gamblers call big bets then.

A975 squeeze is pretty grimey

Ignition tilts me sooooooo hard! How does every single "update" you release drastically decrease the quality of your site???? How do I, someone who occasionally plays small stakes on the site, seem to care more about the prosperity of the site than the owners and operators do???? It just doesn't make sense.

They're using the Merge poker strategy of "nuke all of our games". Merge has been hugely successful in that.

It makes plenty of sense - for them and Merge. They don't want the crumbs from a 10/20 PLO game w 10-20k on the table. They want the whole pie, via those players' sports/casino revenue. Even if only 2 of 6 players in the hypothetical PLO game are willing to gamble it away in the casino, they make more money. There may be a tiny chance that the new owners of Ignition really don't have a clue. But much more likely is that their updates are designed to filter more players to their casino.

80/160 mix is very good for bringing your confidence back if youve been getting your ass kicked. Pretty much its the novice level for mix.

All of this.

Merge ran 5/10 PLO, 30/60 FL, and it was a boom time for action on the site. The problem was that the fish were constantly playing high and getting killed; many went off for thousands a day that went directly to the regs. The regs, of course, have 0 intention of recycling the $ into other sections of the site.

So same rake per hand, less hands than if the fish were capped at playing 2/5 big bet and 15/30 fixed bet. So these sites have incentive to protect the action players from themselves a bit, as well as from the regs; it makes the site more $.

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