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Old 05-17-2017, 06:07 PM   #626
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Re: 2017! NC/LC THREAD! let us gogogogo

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Old 05-17-2017, 09:34 PM   #627
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Haha, Ignition is taking ages to process my bitcoin withdrawal and I am down to $30 from $200 getting my ass pounded as I learn Stud 8. I hate Ignition so much between the disconnects, the software crashes, the dumb changes they keep making, getting hacked (likely an inside job), and repeatedly screwing up my withdrawals. "Have you tried re-installing the poker client, clearing your cookies, and btw... thank you for using bitcoins!" Die.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:37 PM   #628
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I'm actually somewhat surprised ACR games haven't picked up post-ignition jokerage.

Actually didn't lose in a massive 46 hand sample at 10/20 tonight (even if I did run 65 into 84 on 544-8-7 and 98 into TT on T88 against the same spewmonkey). Things turning around!
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:22 PM   #629
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You guys should come join us on seals to play the fun games, where we all suck at stud (esp stud hi I can't play) and you get to keep your BTC since its a BTC only site and withdrawals and deposits are processed in hours without fees
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:52 AM   #630
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I keep hearing about these Seals with Clubs mixed games, but I never see them running. Every time I check, I just see microstakes big bet games and OFC. I would be interested in some nano-stakes mixed games though.
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:07 AM   #631
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I played a hand today where I defended my BB against an UTG raise and three callers including the sb.

Flop KdTh7c

Checked around.

Turn Td. I bet. UTG calls, one cold caller folds, one calls, sb calls.

River 2c. I bet. UTG calls.

Spoiler:
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:09 AM   #632
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I have a bluffing frequency of 0% currently. I'm a fan.
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:42 AM   #633
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I played a hand today where I defended my BB against an UTG raise and three callers including the sb.

Flop KdTh7c

Checked around.

Turn Td. I bet. UTG calls, one cold caller folds, one calls, sb calls.

River 2c. I bet. UTG calls.

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i like your flop play
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:26 AM   #634
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I played a hand today where I defended my BB against an UTG raise and three callers including the sb.

Flop KdTh7c

Checked around.

Turn Td. I bet. UTG calls, one cold caller folds, one calls, sb calls.

River 2c. I bet. UTG calls.

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Advanced range balancing, IMO
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:13 PM   #635
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I keep hearing about these Seals with Clubs mixed games, but I never see them running. Every time I check, I just see microstakes big bet games and OFC. I would be interested in some nano-stakes mixed games though.
I know **** about basically any game but holdem, but I've wanted for a while to at least pick up the basics of other games. After the series I'd be up for getting a nano stakes game together.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:56 PM   #636
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Yeah it's not the biggest player pool, but they do have super micro stakes where you can learn all the games for almost nothing. 5 card PLO and OFC run more frequently than the mix games.

The biggest mix games that run regularly are 15 chip/30 chip or approx. $25/$50. Usually it's 10c/20c or 6c/12c in the last few weeks as BTC has gone up, and the games are usually shorthanded as there are only about a dozen in this player pool. There is a lot of fun chat and needling. The games don't run every night and start late at night usually (must be mostly west coast players I guess), but I'll open tables and hope people will sit, even though I suck at heads up. From Thursday-Sunday these games will usually run, less often and late at night on the other days.

The nice bonus, besides the 50% rb, is the extra gamble I get from BTC price variance combined w my own variance. When I first started on the site a year ago BTC was like 200-250.
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Old 05-18-2017, 03:12 PM   #637
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I know **** about basically any game but holdem, but I've wanted for a while to at least pick up the basics of other games. After the series I'd be up for getting a nano stakes game together.
Or you can try it live, during the Series. That's about the only time you can find them widespread at low steaks. At least most of the games are limit.
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Old 05-18-2017, 04:48 PM   #638
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I can probably cover more in a micro game with UG over the weekend than I could during entire series live. Also I wouldn't be missing good limit games to do so
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:51 PM   #639
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Coolness, I am definitely down if my Ignition withdrawal ever processes. Hopefully we can spark some interest and get 4-6 of us playing at a time. I would also be interested in playing the draw games. I think SWC might be the only site with Badeucy and Badacey.
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:55 PM   #640
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Coolness, I am definitely down if my Ignition withdrawal ever processes. Hopefully we can spark some interest and get 4-6 of us playing at a time. I would also be interested in playing the draw games. I think SWC might be the only site with Badeucy and Badacey.


I'm interested.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:12 PM   #641
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I'm interested.
I'm interested. In a Bob's Burger that I'll have to wait 13 mos for.

pretty sure Breich90 would be down for some "face up" micro mix/draw games as well.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:14 PM   #642
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I'm interested. In a Bob's Burger that I'll have to wait 13 mos for.



pretty sure Breich90 would be down for some "face up" micro mix/draw games as well.


Not coming out to the series this year?
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Old 05-19-2017, 01:57 PM   #643
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I played a hand today where I defended my BB against an UTG raise and three callers including the sb.

Flop KdTh7c

Checked around.

Turn Td. I bet. UTG calls, one cold caller folds, one calls, sb calls.

River 2c. I bet. UTG calls.

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So he likely won the max by getting you to spew?
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:50 PM   #644
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Yah, you can GTO all you want about check-back ranges, but so-called "feel players" who know when to induce bluffs are going to p'wn the EV lots, and lots of times while remaining unpredictable to the tacticians w limited observational powers. GTO ain't the whole game.
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Old 05-19-2017, 03:59 PM   #645
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I doubt this guy won the max. 2 other players called the turn bet. Unless they both picked up a flush draw there, seems likely they would have called the flop as well. And if they did pick up flush draws, he let them draw cheaply on the turn.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:55 PM   #646
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I doubt this guy won the max. 2 other players called the turn bet. Unless they both picked up a flush draw there, seems likely they would have called the flop as well. And if they did pick up flush draws, he let them draw cheaply on the turn.
That's true, but if one of the other players has a flush draw, and the other has 3-5 outs, and one guy is drawing dead. Or better, they both have flush draws and are discounting each other's outs, on the whole that looks like good action for your even though it's good for the flush draw.

Though it does put you in a tough spot if the flush is completed and the bluffer still bets out inexplicably into 3 people. I mean, it looks like the bluffer completed his hand and there are two behind you that you have to worry about.

You also do not know that the other two are going to call until after the fact, and it is entirely possible that if one had a flush draw they'd make a bet to try to "take it down" w equity to boot if there are two callers. So, it takes some assessing of the probabilities, but overall if you do get to induce the bluff, which is also an *if*, then it's pretty damn cozy from where I'm sitting. Gotta love getting dead money in the pot.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:24 PM   #647
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Have to payoff the river, but might be the cost of doing business.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:32 PM   #648
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GTO ain't the whole game.
It literally is.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:45 PM   #649
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It literally is.
No, it literally isn't. I am surprised at your comment.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:28 PM   #650
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Any solvable game, which is to say all games, consists of that game's solution and deviations from that game's solution. What else is there? Also utgs chk otf is awful.
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