True. 90% of my limit play as been as foxwoods where this is literally never a one pair hand from legit 95% of the player pool.

Yes, I can read thanks. You realize he donked the flop right?

If you're an aggressive player who is always raising and attacking some times bad players adjust poorly. They donk the flop with an ace, they call the turn raise because they're 'trapping', and then check the river with AQ because the flush draw missed. It's basically why he cc'd pf with a big ace to begin with.

I'm not saying lots of players do it, or that they do it a lot. I'm just saying it happens sometimes because they don't know how else to play a 'drawing' hand like AQ.

LP players aren't taking the b/c turn, x/r river line with AQ. This is an advanced line you usually see in 80/160+. The worst value hand he has here is AK, so call and hope to chop IMO.

dump to the check raise

results?

I already gave results in post #37. I called the check-raise, villain had ATo for rivered top two pair.

I see.

I would have given out like 15:1, maybe even more, that villain had you beat. People saying this can easily be AQ are nuts IMO

Why raise the flop when you can get another big bet on the turn?

This totally depends on what these people think of you--not just what you think of their playing styles.

If they see you as an action lag, you missed a bet on the flop.

I don't like flatting pre here ever, especially in the Borgata 20 game (no matter the exact lineup). And while I understand your inclination not to raise the flop to be able to get the caller behind you and two big bets from the SB on the turn, ask yourself if you could have put in the raise on the flop, gotten two calls, then taken control of the betting on the turn, and still gotten two calls. Seems altogether possible given the way you describe both villains' styles of play... but less likely if your imagine is an obv nit.


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I decided to call flop based on the tendencies of the LP raiser. He was likely to call one bet even with a total whiff, and raise himself with any hand that hit the flop, but fold whiffs to a raise and not three bet unless he had me beat.

I expect tourists to lead out all sorts of pairs and flush draws here and frequently shut down on turn. By calling we give lp behind us a great price to continue with a lot of hands. The pot is not small, its totally fine to go for value immediately. Losing 1 bet when tourist has a dominated ace is ok, I am willing to trade a smaller pot for improved visibility when both opponents have to respond to a 2nd bet instead of 1. 9x, jt, 87, etc type hands, also missed pairs set-mining benefit the most when we call instead of raise. Also runner-runner hearts.

Well yeah it's nit picking but it is not 1BB it's a .5BB in total