LA 40.

Super Laggy pro opens CO I 3! OTB, SB caps it. SB plays higher and plays pretty well from what I've seen. She is self taught but is aggressive and tends to pick her spots well. She knows CO and I are...wide.

3 ways

A77r

SB checks, CO checks I bet both call. My gut read here is SBs check is honest and she is not setting a tarp.

Jr

SB checks, co checks, I bet, SB raises. Now the CO folds and fumbles A9dd.

Here is my question....from both game theory and "exploit the non game theory player" points of view, what is the best hand I can consider folding? As a player who relies more on exploitation, I was tempted to fold a monster at game speed.

GTO: Ax worse than AQ is my guess
exploitative: A7 is probably a good fold

Exploitively AQ? IDK even though all you've done postflop is bet when they check I feel like you've shown a good deal of strength and she's just not trying to get a fold. I've been expiramenting with checking back my whole range on the flop here vs thinking players because I just always had an Ace when I bet.

lol wat

I've stopped being able to tell when you're serious. (I just don't think JJ and AA are the only hands we're getting c/r with here; we see AK/AJ far too often to fold A7 imo).

I'm torn on AQ; I would usually not fold it but that could be wrong. I think AT is a fold.

I seriously doubt we are ever seeing AJ here.

Anyone ever consider checking back the turn?

well unless i have AQ or better i'm checking this turn 100% of the time, unless i'm playing bad. so i dunno?

i think betting Ax with x < Q is a mistake

I'm not so sure checking back like A9 is a good idea. If I had A4s or something I can see it, but there is a lot of value to be reaped from the CO here with any reasonable ace. Also giving a free card to a 2 Outter isn't awesome.

I don't think the player described ever plays AK like this on the flop + turn (either she would bet flop or just call down), AJ is unlikely for a lot of reasons, I think its probably jacks full over 90% of the time /shrug

AJ/AK are weirdly(?) played but there is zero chance i am folding A7 to this turn checkraise given the read/dynamic.

im not saying i would never fold A7 here (although i will admit its going to take a v specific opponent) but this does not seem like the spot.

perhaps i am not taking my exploitation to the correct level, dunno.

folding any single ace here is good though.

i do want to add that i want to get to the point where i can fold A7 here but that requires paying attention to my opponents at such a high level that poker becomes miserable for me, live anyways. the biggest hit to my game was losing the ability to use a HUD and a HH database. feel that was one of my bigger edges online.

being able to feel as strong a read as i would need to fold the turn with the given info with A7 is probably something i wont be able to do. its why i never play higher than 40.

by the way I should say I'd never fold A7 here, but then I gave up the business of making soul reads on what people have awhile back and I don't think its made me a worse player. I would basically say to myself in this spot "wow she probably has jacks full here" and then I would say "wow there's a lot of money in the pot and maybe she's tricky / weird and maybe my read is bad and maybe a lot of things so let's figure out where I'm at in my range, oh I have a pretty big hand, guess I'm gonna see her cards then"

I guess all I was saying in my first post in this thread is that if you force me to pick her range (which is not precise, its an educated guess) JJ and AA make up a pretty big chunk of it, maybe so much of it imo that we could fold A7, you know, if I was in the business of putting smart winning high limit players on ranges and then acting on that information, which thankfully I am not. That sounds hard.

by the way again reading over all this stuff I don't think I'm really making much sense, my first post was fairly ridiculous and now I'm just rambling wildly. I don't think I've been sleeping enough and I haven't played any serious poker for like 6 weeks which probably is making me rusty in some respects too. I think its best to just ignore me until one day I hope to be coherent and crushing at gambling and hopefully that will be sooner than later

Sounds like the player is Laura, sounds like she has pocket jacks like 99.9% of the time here, sounds like Death Donkey knows his stuff even when he doesn't think he does.

A9 and A4 are the same hand in this spot