30/60

hero open A6o otb, really bad loose passive small blind calls (guy is like 60/5 vpip/pfr), good taggy BB calls.

Flop AT3r, checked to hero who bets, both call.
Turn Jr, checked to hero who bets, SB calls, BB c/r, hero's plan = ?

would taggy bb 3bet all kq pf?

i feel fine calling and trying to improve on river.

this feels like exactly JT so call, fold UI?
good taggy people 3bet pre with AJ AT KQ with a 3rd loose passive in there don't they?

This seems reasonable. Is calling down terrible on a river 2,4,5,7,8, or 9?

Almost certainly, yes.

i hate folding tp in button vs blind spots like this but calling all the time is probably terrible i usually default to calling on 8 and 9 rivers in case he got frisky with a weak Ax something surprising for the chop and folding the smaller cards

i'm usually guilty of calling too much in spots like this but i mean unless bb is super creative and did this with QJ to get you to fold a weak A and get the passive sb to call with like Tx we're usually losing. i highly doubt he's that creative.

yeah I mean you certainly can't fold the turn. calling the river ui is sort of a game flow lol live play spot, but you should just be able to see if he has it or not some decent percentage of the time. but realistically if you call and the SB calls, and the river blanks off (doesn't pair the board, isn't a 6) and he's still firing you're usually toasted, but will be getting like 12:1 or something silly.

+1

A few questions:

Does this hand change for us if SB folded preflop but the action remains the same (specifically the turn C/R by BB)?

Do we think that HU a TAG villain is more likely to make a play ott with worse than TP0K and does this keep us tied to the hand?

Are we still calling down?

Sorry if these are basic questions...

Is hero just checking this turn a reasonable play?

No

This is exactly what I'm thinking. Call turn. Fold river UI is what I would do.

After all these years, ILP limit strat posts still spot on.

Fwiw I think calling kq, and by extension my whole range, is perfectly reasonable in bbs spot.

is there a spot in a 3 way hand that you wouldn't call pre?
like do both villains have to be super passives who don't cbet enough? if efficacy and sb switched spots?

Am I nuts for thinking I want to check this flop? Certainly if the flop was A93r, I would be more inclined to do so.