Originally Posted by armor32
Stox & Grudzien recommend playing ATC in a 5 or 6 handed pots and support their reasoning by odds of flopping two pair or better (i.e. they imply that hand should be folded on the flop most the time if flopping less than that). So basically you now say that this can be relaxed to 4 handed pots because... people started to play more loose? Or is this more because of the specific lineup of people involved in the pot as described in the OP?
I think preflop is a call in this specific case for a combination of few good reasons:
1. Price. I am getting 7:1.
2. Closing the action. It will always only cost 1 more bet.
3. Position. My relative position on the flop, where the bet is very likely to come from either my left, or the tag fishy lady after the pfr checks (in which case he'll be very unlikely to c/r).
4. The presence of the whale in the SB.
The hand I'm trying to flop here, aside from two pair plus, is bottom pair or a gut shot. The setup I have means I'm going to be able to profitably see a turn card when I flop those hands a good percentage of the time, and win a few big bets when I do convert them (or see a free river card).