Bellagio 20/40.

V1 is new to the table, only one hand of note so far, he raises cutoff, button 3! he calls. Flop is K high rainbow with blanks on turn and river, he calls both streets but agonizes on river and shows QQ to win the pot.

V2 is a pro, very aggressive, winning crusher for sure.

V1 opens UTG+2, folds to V2 on the button who 3!, Hero calls QQ in the big blind, V1 caps, both call

Flop is 1076

Hero bets? V1 raises, V2 3!, hero calls, V1 caps, both call

Turn is 7

Hero checks, V1 bets, V2 calls, Hero calls

Should we ever be raising this turn?

River is J

plan for river? Check/call?

4! For value Pre...lead flop as it is still fairly wet with spades and straight draws and you probably have the beat hand IMO.

Bet turn and river unless told differently.

As played, XR turn for value and reevaluate if 3!

I would have capped preflop but can maybe see just calling the 3! and then the 4! to conceal your hand strength.

After V1 caps OTF I'm slowing way down and going into call down mode.

Not raising that turn given V1 action + the pot is big enough for queens for me anyway so I would just check is down all the way unless a Q spikes the river.

Overall I think you played the hand fine and would C/c the river since you are first to act but if I was OTB I would probably B/C if checked to

Against a player, that was agonizing for a river call with QQ on a K high board, showing aggression at every opportunity, your QQ is quite behind. Further a good player who has seen how V1 played QQ but still 3 bets the flop so his range is strong as well. And then V1 does not care what V2 is doing. Any aggression beyond what you had shown looks suicidal to me. Your best hope is V1 is doing this with AsKs but that is only one combo (and it should be discounted) against AA/KK for a total of 12 combos. You can make a case for a fold on the turn.

I'm having trouble making sense of this

Realized I made a typo on the flop action. V1 didn't cap he called the 3 bet and then bet out on the turn. Turn action was the same. Might change responses slightly.

Clicker isn't the pot a little big and QQ a little too strong to fold for one bet on the turn?

This is how I see it. The way he played QQ hand tells me that he is very passive and even timid. His preflop range is heavily weighted towards big pairs. His postflop action should further discount anything else other than big pairs. He has AA most of the time and KK rest of the time.

I would have 4-bet preflop, but it would not have been a cap.

5 bet cap at Bellagio so unless action given is wrong, as played it was not capped preflop. This could be important as the expert on the button apparently didn't make the choice to make it 5 bets preflop, in a multiway pot, with best position.

As stated, the betting was also not capped on the flop. These things are important, guys...

As played, you're likely beat, but can't really fold because you have underrepresented your hand.

Agree w rob

What do you think this says about his range? It seems like you think it means it's unlikely he has AA/KK.

I think it makes AA or KK less likely than if there was the same action with a 4-bet cap. I'm more worried about being beat here by V1 than by V2.

I also this this is why he is unlikely to cap AA/KK

I don't see anything wrong with how you played this hand. Just a bad spot to be in, but probably one you have to call down once you get to the turn and no overcards or flush card comes out. Once the J hits the river though, there is not much else you can beat now, but I guess you still have to call (because of the size of the pot) and hope you see an AKs and 99 or 88 for the other villain.

I also do not mind flatting preflop with hands like QQ/JJ in multiway pots to conceal your hand strength.

Not sure what I think about donking the flop. This could probably be commented on. Thoughts on the flop donk anyone? Donk or c/r this flop with 2 other players in?

the flop donk is terrible

Comments like yours are very unproductive. Goes against creating the atmosphere I'm sure the creators of the site wanted. Maybe my thoughts are alone though...

Would you C/R this flop? or C/C? I was debating it, and decided in the moment my hand was underrepped and a donk would look like i was overplaying a 10 or betting a draw.

If folks are interested in results, I will post that as well, don't want to derail any discussion too early though.

i would check/raise the flop for sure but if i met with any resistance i would switch to call down mode

please don't post the results
they just don't matter

Results actually do matter. I would like to see them eventually, but think it is a good idea to wait until the discussion is mostly over.

Absolutely false.

results don't matter for the sake of the discussion

ok then op please post the results right now

and pid please explain why posting the results is good

Because results give a better idea of what the ranges of the other players actually were. You can then have two good discussions; how the hand should have been played at the time, and how you would play a similar hand with same or similar villains in the future now that you have more data.

ding ding ding we have a winner.

I check on the river, V1 checks, and V2 sighs and checks behind as well. I fast roll QQ, V1 shows 99, and V2 says he had AKss

Considered a bet/fold on the river, but figured it was too exploitable.