not everyone plays perfect.

also they don't know you have exactly 77

agreed, but I am not convinced this is a good enough reason to value own myself.... Remember, this is not a HU or even 3 way pot

yes 4 ways....but seems like if a blank is coming off on the river you're calling anyways so i don't see why you wouldn't b/f the turn maybe i'm wrong

not true, I folded river - look in OP

oh no i meant like if it went check utg bet lady folded you're calling right? obviously not overcalling when snug old lady calls

I would fold it pre. I consider myself "snug " and vs me you're not doing well vs my isoing range here. Plus you've got to Dodge half the deck to improve. As played I would bet the turn. That card hits my pf.3b.range OK and I would love to fold out an over pp or six outers. As played I'd have a hard time folding river. What precedence do we have that tells us we aren't good? Does the deuce or the fact that they checked the Q Give us that info?