i guess since i joked at rick's expense, i should add something content wise lol.

1. agree obv that "everything is marginal" equity wise in the bb. if the player is very good and knows how to apply pressure, i toss 85o. otherwise i'm playing it. i.e. it's close to the cusp. i play between 75-80% probably though it varies based on who the button is.

2. yeesh k/f the flop.

3. given the way the hand was played, if that jack doesn't hit you, i have no clue what would from his perspective lol. you have 8 high. bet and table your hand like you have the nuts if he calls.

The J shouldn't be a scare card but it is for a lot of poor hand reading opponents. I would probably just barrel here given our hand but probably wouldn't c/r this flop to begin with.

the j shouldn't be a scare card.

but it is.

awesome river card to fire at in that position though

DD does not fold fold his big blind lightly.

This is an EXCELLENT post on constructing parts of our range to bluff with, raise for value, and bluff catch, or fold. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/35...e-post-923166/

Without doing the work I'm going to say the 85o falls well within the fold part of our range.

Been out of town for a week anything new come up?

FWIW couldn't figure it out FML, LOL. Dsifrths is OTM. OMC had no chance.

Nice beefy link, Jack.

I like how half the people think the river J is a scare card for villain and half think it isn't.

Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll overfish your local fishing hole and you'll both go hungry.

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