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11-15-2009, 03:46 PM
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#856
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
no it isn"t
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how would you play the online hand then?
id either c/r/c, c/c, c/c or c/c, c/c, c/c.
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11-15-2009, 05:22 PM
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#857
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by RudeboyOi
how would you play the online hand then?
id either c/r/c, c/c, c/c or c/c, c/c, c/c.
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I think calling the river is super non-standard and if it is you're showing down an exploitable amount. I also think c/r the flop is very very bad for your flop c/c range.
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11-15-2009, 07:21 PM
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#858
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
villain was b/f every paired or dry flop beginning of match he was starting to fight back at this point and i didnt much care for that idea so i had to do this to him to try and make him realize its better to just let me win every pot without a struggle when eh has nothing. when i think some1 is terrible (and i probably do if im playing them hu) i dont really care about balancing i care about making them do the stupidest thing possible every time they have a decision
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11-15-2009, 07:35 PM
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#859
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by HOWMANY
villain was b/f every paired or dry flop beginning of match he was starting to fight back at this point and i didnt much care for that idea so i had to do this to him to try and make him realize its better to just let me win every pot without a struggle when eh has nothing. when i think some1 is terrible (and i probably do if im playing them hu) i dont really care about balancing i care about making them do the stupidest thing possible every time they have a decision
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I don't think your play is bad automatically, as I could see multiple reasons for it, especially against the typical bad reg at those levels. But it shouldn't be standard at all.
I also like your cd much better after you 4bet flop/chked turn than if you just c/c c/c. For the same reason, I'd like your cd okay if you only called his flop 3bet.
Last edited by OnTheRail15; 11-15-2009 at 07:51 PM.
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11-15-2009, 09:32 PM
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#860
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
it would be nicer if the turn paired the board or was a K. theres still tons and tons of combinations of cards in between a 4 and an A, im not folding Qhigh here. the K on the river made it much easier to call a riverbet also.
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11-15-2009, 10:02 PM
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#861
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by RudeboyOi
it would be nicer if the turn paired the board or was a K. theres still tons and tons of combinations of cards in between a 4 and an A, im not folding Qhigh here. the K on the river made it much easier to call a riverbet also.
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Okay you're calling the river too much if you're just blindly showing down here. First of all, Q high is below your equalirium point for calling down. Secondly people, in general barrel below equalibrium on this board texture. So not only does a cd not fit well into a balanced game, it also doesn't fit into an exploititive game, generally.
This is all assuming your play in a vacuum is to c/c the flop, which it should be. HM basically induced a bluff by c/r/capping the flop, which is a good play against this villain but isn't good in general. Which is why HM ruined this guys life.
The king doesn't do anything to change the hand.
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11-15-2009, 11:41 PM
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#862
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
The king doesn't do anything to change the hand.
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if Qhigh is any good, a K is just as good as the board pairing.
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11-16-2009, 03:26 PM
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#863
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
When the cash flow was high, I jumped into a Bellagio 1/2 game drunk.
It was clear I was the biggest fish on the table after a couple of horrendous plays. I raised 98o OTB, SB 2 bet, BB 3 bet, I 4 bet, SB capped.
FLOP J,2,5 rainbow. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I 3bet, SB 4 Bet, BB capped.
TURN 7 no possible flush on board. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I called (GUTSHOT), SB 3 bet, BB 4 bet, I called, BB capped and we all called.
RIVER 10. SB bet, BB called. I raised. SB 3 bet, BB took forever and folded. I 4 bet, BB capped. I called and turned over the nuts.
SB had JJ, BB had 55. I scooped the huge pot and won more decent sized pots later that night. I left +$15K and the table broke when I left.
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11-16-2009, 03:45 PM
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#864
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
pretty sure you couldve 6bet
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11-16-2009, 04:44 PM
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#865
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grinder
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by HOWMANY
pretty sure you couldve 6bet
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this was in 2004? i thought 4 bet would be a cap but they said 5 bet is the cap.
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11-16-2009, 04:48 PM
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#866
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Most Definitely
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by needsFH2win
this was in 2004? i thought 4 bet would be a cap but they said 5 bet is the cap.
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If it's heads up before the fifth bet is placed, then there's no cap.
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11-16-2009, 05:42 PM
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#867
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by needsFH2win
When the cash flow was high, I jumped into a Bellagio 1/2 game drunk.
It was clear I was the biggest fish on the table after a couple of horrendous plays. I raised 98o OTB, SB 2 bet, BB 3 bet, I 4 bet, SB capped.
FLOP J,2,5 rainbow. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I 3bet, SB 4 Bet, BB capped.
TURN 7 no possible flush on board. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I called (GUTSHOT), SB 3 bet, BB 4 bet, I called, BB capped and we all called.
RIVER 10. SB bet, BB called. I raised. SB 3 bet, BB took forever and folded. I 4 bet, BB capped. I called and turned over the nuts.
SB had JJ, BB had 55. I scooped the huge pot and won more decent sized pots later that night. I left +$15K and the table broke when I left.
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Your opponents neededFH2win
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11-16-2009, 07:25 PM
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#868
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veteran
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: roslindale
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by needsFH2win
When the cash flow was high, I jumped into a Bellagio 1/2 game drunk.
It was clear I was the biggest fish on the table after a couple of horrendous plays. I raised 98o OTB, SB 2 bet, BB 3 bet, I 4 bet, SB capped.
FLOP J,2,5 rainbow. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I 3bet, SB 4 Bet, BB capped.
TURN 7 no possible flush on board. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I called (GUTSHOT), SB 3 bet, BB 4 bet, I called, BB capped and we all called.
RIVER 10. SB bet, BB called. I raised. SB 3 bet, BB took forever and folded. I 4 bet, BB capped. I called and turned over the nuts.
SB had JJ, BB had 55. I scooped the huge pot and won more decent sized pots later that night. I left +$15K and the table broke when I left.
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not 5 betting the turn is pretty nitty if u were drunk, gutshot and u might have the best hand also if they have lower straight draws
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11-16-2009, 08:08 PM
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#869
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 8,516
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by needsFH2win
When the cash flow was high, I jumped into a Bellagio 1/2 game drunk.
It was clear I was the biggest fish on the table after a couple of horrendous plays. I raised 98o OTB, SB 2 bet, BB 3 bet, I 4 bet, SB capped.
FLOP J,2,5 rainbow. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I 3bet, SB 4 Bet, BB capped.
TURN 7 no possible flush on board. SB bet, BB 2 bet, I called (GUTSHOT), SB 3 bet, BB 4 bet, I called, BB capped and we all called.
RIVER 10. SB bet, BB called. I raised. SB 3 bet, BB took forever and folded. I 4 bet, BB capped. I called and turned over the nuts.
SB had JJ, BB had 55. I scooped the huge pot and won more decent sized pots later that night. I left +$15K and the table broke when I left.
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You are my hero. Easily the best hand itt.
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11-16-2009, 08:11 PM
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#870
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Casino AZ
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Re: post a hand where you ruin someone's life
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Originally Posted by BK1248
not 5 betting the turn is pretty nitty if u were drunk, gutshot and u might have the best hand also if they have lower straight draws
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[ ] gutshot
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