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Originally Posted by mongidig
I think there is a subtle difference. If you put yourself in SB's spot, you have seen the HJ bet all the way and you have hoped maybe your hand is good. On the river, it's not looking good, but I can see the SB make a loose call. In the scenario were the UTG decides to Donk the river, you have now seen two players show an interest in this hand. There is virtually no way his smaller pair is good now.
If I'm The UTG I'm realistically expecting to make two bets by CR the river. Three bets is a possibility and 4 bets is a very remote possibility.
i guess we'll have to agree to disagree heeya. i get the subtle difference and it's a good point.
i still don't agree w/ "realistically expecting to make 2 bets by kr the river." he has to bet for that to happen and again, if somebody is described as mubsy, on the scale of mubsy-ness from 1-10, he'd only have to be like a 4 or a 5 in order to check an ace here that only beats 4 of the aces when mubsy's opponent has an ace. it may seem silly for you to see being called 2 times by 2 players and then checking the river, but mubsy people do not have the get value thing down. missing river bets is a BIG PART of being mubsy.
anyways, it appears we have arrived at an impasse. so you can go ahead and live long and suck it