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What if you knew what preflop action was going to be, but the board cards would be different? Would you still play that hand the same? I don't think that is a profitable spot for a preflop raise in a 4 way pot with that hand, and it seems unlikely to be a fluke that both blinds called, as you seem to have a spewy image in the game

I don't think you deserve to be berated about it, and you still need a way to deal with the comments, but you might also want to take this opportunity to think about if you are making some spewy plays.

12-27-2014 , 01:19 PM

#178

Mubsy Bogues

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathDonkey

Nm my earlier comment they are probably just worried about you around the holidays and trying to help.

insulting somebody would seem an odd way to accomplish that

12-27-2014 , 01:28 PM

#179

Mubsy Bogues

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chillrob

What if you knew what preflop action was going to be, but the board cards would be different? Would you still play that hand the same?

If I knew in advance both blinds would call, no, I would fold. I was trying to isolate the whale. I didn't know they were calling. SB in this hand could be trusted to fold (he must have picked up something decent) and BB wasn't calling 80% or anything.

Quote:

I don't think you deserve to be berated about it, and you still need a way to deal with the comments, but you might also want to take this opportunity to think about if you are making some spewy plays.

I go to the casino to gamble! Why do you go?

12-27-2014 , 01:51 PM

#180

chillrob

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I understand why you raised preflop, and I don't think it's necessarily a bad play, but you might just want to be aware if you could be overusing it. The more often you make light isolation plays (and showdown), the less likely the isolation attempt will actually be successful. If it is getting common for people in the game to complain about your maniacal play (regardless of whether true or not), it is likely time to change gears.

12-27-2014 , 04:52 PM

#181

AlanBostick

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Pay close attention to what they are saying. You might learn something and become a better player.

12-27-2014 , 05:00 PM

#182

chillrob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanBostick

Pay close attention to what they are saying. You might learn something and become a better player.

This is actually completely true, even if what they are saying is totally mistaken. If you know what they consider to be bad play, and they are trying to play well, you can more narrowly narrow down their hand ranges in many situations.

12-27-2014 , 08:17 PM

#183

OnTheRail15

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Here's a decent story where I got berated. 7 handed and I open QTs utg+1. Spazz 3bets and we go to flop hu.

Flop a22

I chk call

Turn a

I chk call

River 7

chk chk

I say, "Queen" and turn over my hand.

Spazz stares at my hand, "How could you call me with that! What a terrible call!"

He holds onto his cards....

"I thought it might be good... Is it?"

Spazz mucks.

12-28-2014 , 12:23 AM

#184

that_pope

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues

What's the best way to respond to fish who berate you for the way you play? There are a few of these now in my game. They go on and on about me always raising and 3-betting PF, the hands I do it with and how I "always" suckout on people (the table erupts with insults whenever I do - obviously nobody says a word when they do it to me).

Ignoring them is obviously the default but these are regs I play a lot. It's getting old. Explaining how I'm playing good and they suck is also a knee jerk reaction, but that's clearly no good. What are my other options?

easy game

no gamble no future

why are you trying to teach me how to play better?

12-28-2014 , 02:29 PM

#185

grandmofftarkin

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 389

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues

Shrug and say "Listen, I just put the 8 chips out there..."

12-28-2014 , 02:31 PM

#186

DougL

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Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 21,810

You know, poker is like a battle. I send my guys out there and I hope they bring back some friends. I hate to leave anyone behind.

12-28-2014 , 11:47 PM

#187

DesertCat

I am a Regulator

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 13,544

first hand of Holdem tonight UTG opens, 4 calls, I call 75dd BB, J94 with 4d flop, UTG bets all call, I call & end up scooping big pot. Nice woman who wasn't in hand loses her **** for couple minutes discussing my call with table.

As she's winding down 6 players limp in next hand and I fold SB, and then she loses her **** again.

12-29-2014 , 12:19 AM

#188

AlanBostick

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She doesn't sound very nice to me.

12-29-2014 , 08:48 AM

#189

Mubsy Bogues

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertCat

What did you say to her?

12-29-2014 , 12:37 PM

#190

DesertCat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues

What did you say to her?

As BB, "I just came to gamble Ma'am".

As SB, "I didn't come here to gamble Ma'am".

12-29-2014 , 01:04 PM

#191

CrazyLond

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertCat

As BB, "I just came to gamble Ma'am".

As SB, "I didn't come here to gamble Ma'am".

Awesome

12-29-2014 , 01:17 PM

#192

phunkphish

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertCat

I think you're supposed to call ATC getting better than 13:1

12-31-2014 , 09:24 PM

#193

DesertCat

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 13,544

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunkphish

I think you're supposed to call ATC getting better than 13:1

I didn't come here to gamble, Ma'am.

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