Saturday PM 80/160. Game is good with a couple fun players. Some folks are walking so we're 6 handed when this hand takes place.

The button, who is one of two main reasons the game is running, opens and we call in the BB with 3 4. Button has a very wide range here, with tendencies to call light and chase till the river.

Flop: A 2 10
We check raise, button calls.

Turn: J
We bet, button calls.

River: K
We bet, button calls. Button shows me K 7 and says, if the river doesn't come a King or Queen, I would have folded.

Interested in thoughts on all streets. Against this type of player does anyone like a fold pre-flop or on the flop? Anyone give up on the bluff on the river with this board?

J Lot

c/c flop, if you pick up a diamond, then you can c/r. as played, just make sure you don't snap bet river

I don't get why you're trying to bluff someone who will call light, unless you have a specific read that he will give up and fold on the river.

I'd defend pre and then either call flop and fold turn, or x/r flop, barrel turn, and then give up on the river.

nh.

I like the hand as played. I might check call the flop occasionally, but I think that if you're gonna check call 100%, that you should just fold preflop.

I might check fold the turn occasionally, but I like the bet sometimes too.

Once you get to the river, I think you must bet 100% of the time.

nevermind. i thought he opened mp for some reason.

Nh

I'd fold preflop. Do you really want to be dealing with the 4 high out of position against someone sticky? As played, I'd give up on the river unless you think he might actually fold 10x

Easy call PF. If they're sticky, it means we get paid off a lot when we hit.

My preference is to give up turn J-K. He's never folding any pair, and now Kx and Qx are never folding. So little FE. Check, maybe get a free card. If you're feeling frisky, then x/r turn, or x/c turn and donk river.

He meant to say he would have folded if no King or 7 on river...

I'd much rather defend like Q3o v this opponent than 43s. Some RIO issues but TPWK is definitely enough to stick in value raises with confidence.

This hand has generated a much wider range of responses than most hands that get posted. I'm going to go against the grain here:

1-preflop is okay, I don't mind this call because if we connect with a flop we're going to paid off.

2-Fold the flop! We now have the stone cold nut low with a gutshot, 3rd pair draw, and backdoor flush draw in a pot with 3.5 SBs in it. And we're checkraising against the guy that has "tendencies to call light and chase to the river"?? This seems like a bad strategy (yes, chillrob, someone agrees with something you said on this forum, break out the champagne ) Are you trying to rep an A with the checkraise? You haven't said what you think your image is to this fun player, but your call preflop would suggest that you don't have one (level 1 thinking).

IMHO you can find a better spot against this guy.

never folding pre and never folding flop. if you c/r flop i think you have to barrel off.

Yea...lets get HU OOP with one of the worst HU hands possible, flop the nut low, and put in lots of bets vs a guy who won't fold.

That seems smart. I'm sure it's good for balance or meta or something.

call pf, call flop. Lots of various options depending what turn card is. This one, fold.

We're not conparing Q3 to 34s though. As a default Would you call 34s vs BTN open? Him being sticky doesn't change much. If anything it means he plays poorly post flop so we can defend more hands.

Re "find better spots"
I used to say this. It's wrong. Either a spot is profitable and you should play it or its not profitable and you should fold. This is not a tourney - Embrace the variance. The only time to find better spots is if you're trying to be variance adverse or have insufficient bank roll.

i like it. and i like you

+1 I'm fine with though too. Would probably depend on if I ever thought I'd get a free river or showdown or if binking a 3 was the nuts

Also +1 with agreeing with rob my first thought after reading the post was "why the **** would you want to try and bluff a guy who is super sticky?"

You're basically committing yourself to putting in 3 bets to win a 2.5 bet pot against someone who will call light. Sounds like a banana in the tail pipe to me

Super sticky is vague. This board is so dry with high cards. Do super sticky players really call down with Kh? Call turn with Qh/Jh? I can see them doing it on a low or paired board. Much less likely on this texture.

No, you don't have to commit to putting in 3 bets. Easy give up on j-k. Can also give up on board pairing cards since he's sticky. On dry boards w high cards, double barrel gets lots of folds. Villain who calls a double barrel is very showdown, we should often give up river.

"why would you want to bluff..."
Because I like having a nonzero amount of bluffs most of the time. Even against so called 'sticky' players.

He was discribed as one of the reasons the game was running and that he chases. Yes, that's exactly the type of player who will call you with dumb hands.

The worst possible line I can think of is to bloat the pot out of position with a plan on check folding ever. You're throwing bets away.

If you're not planning on barreling then sure, you'll get a fold occasionally but way more often the chaser scoops with J high

or we miss the flop and lose 3 big bets with 4 hi. i'm not saying to fold pf, just that its easy for this hand to snowball very badly.

i get it:

in terms of the hand, you already know my thoughts on this. for sticky fishy types, i prefer bigger cards in general. offsuit this is an instafold, suitedness gives you some leeway to attack some boards and win pots you otherwise wouldn't w/o a showdown, but i'm still not a huge fan of the hand in this spot so i'm folding this mostly. i call down to 54s though (extra chances to make straight make that difference imo) so it's very close.

once you call, that's ALMOST precisely the board to attack as part of the "air" part of your range lol. if you change the T to a 9 i like it. but you know he's peeling all kinds of bway and possibly just K, Q, or even J high (like J9/J8 or something he might think he can pick up more outs on the turn with since that's how fishy can think). you have a better shot at getting a fold on the turn w/ A9x vs. ATx by a decent margin imo.

so once i call, i also fold the flop.

if you decide to NOT fold to the flop cbet, then i don't see another way to play the hand lol.

Calling flop seems way too passive. You have 4 high with no initiative going into the turn. He easily barrels most turns and you fold. How can anything besides raising or folding the flop be any good?