ok, 1st hh post here. I am wondering how best to charge the monkey in the middle who needs to be punished for his fishiness whilst not spewing drawing dead in a couple recent hands at 20. FYI, I lost both hands and will post results because the result is not the crucial factor in these hands. Both aggressors with initiative in each hand are solid winning players who I have a very good beat on, and this fact contributes towards playing the conservative line in these hands.
I had been on a decent downswing at this point and was thrilled to find a pair. 'Villian who needs to be charged' in this hand is a certified tagfish, i.e. who won't play a hand for an hour, but will snap 3! with ATo as if it's the nuts. The 3 players on my left know me very well and stay out of my way.
Pre: Solid LAG opens the farjack, Villian 3-bets the HJ, I'm next in the CO with black 88. I cap in rhythm (knowing that if I pause, it will betray my hand's marginality, and I've already decided I want to play the hand). Blinds fold, all call, 3 way, 13.5 sb's.
LAG check, Villain checks, I bet, LAG k/r's, tagfish eats 2 cold, I 3!, LAG doesn't miss a beat and caps, tagfish eats 2 more cold, I call, 3 way, 12.25 bb's.
LAG doesn't seem remotely fazed and fires, tagfish calls, I ????? call (b/c I have an overwhelming sense of coolerness, and LAG has a "I have the goods and will snap 3-bet if you try to raise" look in his eye). 3 way, 15.25 bb's
LAG fires, tagfish folds, I ????? call. 88<TT. 17.25 bb's. boooo
Hand 2, hours earlier.
'Villian who needs to be charged' in this hand is a dopey but not spewy asian loose-fish who enjoys limping and calling down. He plays marginal crap.
Villian is UTG+1 and limps, pretty Solid TAG raises the farjack, all folds to me in BB, I defend JToff (no diamond), Villian calls, 3 way, 6.5 sb's.
I check, utg+1 checks, TAG bets, I ?? call, utg+1 calls.
I ?? lead, utg+1 calls, TAG raises, I ????? call (I firmly put TAG on minimum ATo+ with a diamond and suspect he's possibly raising the turn for a free showdown, but would prefer not to barrel-spew/cry-call if somehow, TAG has Axdd and I'm drawing dead), utg+1 calls, 3 way, 6.25 bb's.
. I ??? check, utg+1 checks, TAG bets, I ??? call, utg+1 calls. utg+1's 56dd > hero's JT > TAG's AAd , 9.25 bb's. shrug.
Have I gotten coolered cheaply, or have I under-punished likely 'monkeys in the middle' due to simple fear of value-owning myself? Any feedback on turn/river lines would be helpful.