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08-03-2016 , 01:39 PM

mongidig

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20/40 9 handed

UTG limps, HJ over limps, I raise QdJd in SB, BB calls, all call.

AhQs8c...I bet, only the UTG calls

UTG is new to the game. He's 50 ish, seems selective pre but probably a smidge too loose, he has raised pre and shown strong hands. He has been pretty quiet overall. I have no good Intel regarding his peel or bluff habits.

He probably sees me as a tight TAG.

AhQs8cKd...how do you proceed here?

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08-03-2016 , 06:38 PM

bipolarbearclaw

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Check Fold can't be that bad.

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08-03-2016 , 07:24 PM

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by bipolarbearclaw

Check Fold can't be that bad.

Would you c/f a pair of K ?
I think your hand, with 4 outs to a gutshot , another 3 outs for trips and sometimes a 4 outs for 2 pair being good is worth a pair of King here.

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Originally Posted by mongidig

Imo your hand is worth 1 BB for both street ui.
Bet/folding seem bad for me because you have some decent numbers of outs with the gutshot and by c/c you might get a freeSD if UTG check behind some under pair on the river, not being able to turn some 77,99,TT into a bluff.

The king should hit your range as well, not just UTG, so by c/c turn and c/f river i think it s a good play witha pair of Q.
You should have enough pair of K for not being to exploitable to bluffs.

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08-04-2016 , 01:50 AM

Kevin J

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Originally Posted by bipolarbearclaw

Check Fold can't be that bad.

x/f seems worst option of all to me.

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08-04-2016 , 03:46 AM

steveistheman84

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c/c

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08-05-2016 , 11:04 AM

asmitty

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I would c/c and re-evaluate on the river if he bets again.

If he checks back, I would bet most rivers (not an 8 or a 9) for value.

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08-05-2016 , 12:54 PM

Lurshy

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Kd complets the rainbow. I fire again here. He likely does not have an ace. Utg limps are often set mining small pairs, or various suited connectors. 10 J in range.

If he raises turn reevaluate, but otherwise, he was likely floating the flop with a small piece and/or back door draw.

Ck/C river unimproved

I could be convinced to ck call turn, but chk fold doesnt seem right against described utg.

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