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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
Thoughts on river (or before). Also if you fold river what's th best hand you call with? Will post my thoughts later.
Some person I've never seen opens in MP I 3 bet JJ sb and bb calls. TT9 flopnk bet bb calls and MP tries to make it 4 bets (I think it's more likely he doesn't know the raise amount than he is trying some cunning bluff/angle but you never know).... we both call
Turn: TT9...9 obviously it gets checked through because why wouldn't it.
River Q... I check bb checks MP bets and I fold (I'd prob call KK)...
i like the flop bc if we're intending to xr river on brick runouts. it's fun to valuecut with this line too, as aces generally just puke calls. =D I think b/3b is fine, but 3h i'm def wanting to balance my b/c range too~ vs an unknown i b/3b flop exploitatively because
1) free card plays are overused in this spot often
2) we can collude against the 3rd player and fold out some overs
3) i think people in general play paired flops extremely poorly, randomly raising Ax and weird pairs much too often.
vs a good player otf i like bet call, only because our range is pretty narrow pre here
as played on the turn, lol.
river I'm never check folding that hand. We would bet a rivered queen often... so when we check jacks is very high up in our range. I would expect the middle player to bet a queen mostly if he rivered it. I think making this fold is quite an exploitative decision and generally a mistake without reads. Against a free carding type player, absolutely not folding.