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gaming_mouse · 04-22-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15

Think about the number of hands in our range that we peel that pick up draws when those cards hit. So the pool of hands we can semibluff from becomes way bigger. If we semibluff every draw in that spot we will be bluffing way too much.

Now it's true that those cards are also very good for our peeling range so we can raise more for value and thus must semibluff more, especially if we're willing to value raise thinly. That being said, I'd guess most 2p2ers bluff too much in this spot.

good explanation, thx

gaming_mouse · 04-22-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dankrems

think it might have been you or GM. Can anyone help with the name of that tool--combo counter or something I think? It would be very handy here, as my gut was we had less outs than you are suggesting but I'd like to go in and see.

you are thinking of:

www.combonator.com

Anacardo · 04-22-2012, 01:36 PM

let's not and say we did.

oh wait that's what we *always* do

WackyPoker · 04-22-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dankrems

Your question made me think about this some more. What range are you assigning to villain? Mine might be somewhat tight given the villain description of good online player.

I figured his SB 3! range against a button open range is about 25% (too tight?) 55+, A2s+, A5o+, K8o+, Q10o+, J10s+

This villains range is way larger than this considering this is a button open and a SB 3 bet against two players who have lots of history online as well.

gameoverjc · 04-22-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dankrems

Your question made me think about this some more. What range are you assigning to villain? Mine might be somewhat tight given the villain description of good online player.

I figured his SB 3! range against a button open range is about 25% (too tight?) 55+, A2s+, A5o+, K8o+, Q10o+, J10s+

Also, a while back someone mentioned this great range dissection tool that i used to have before my laptop crashed recently. think it might have been you or GM. Can anyone help with the name of that tool--combo counter or something I think? It would be very handy here, as my gut was we had less outs than you are suggesting but I'd like to go in and see.

I really think that range is too broad for a solid online player. But I'm not sure if this solid online player used to beat 10/20 or 30/60 - so that makes a huge difference.

efficacy · 04-22-2012, 02:44 PM

If turn and river are bricky low or board pairing cards, this looks like a decent spot to call / call / fold to river barrel, or call /call / bluff river when checked to. Villain will be in a really ****ty spot when he gets to the river with his K and Q and J-high hands, and 953-brick-brick is not exactly a texture where you can have a lot of drawing hands.

gaming_mouse · 04-22-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WackyPoker

This villains range is way larger than this considering this is a button open and a SB 3 bet against two players who have lots of history online as well.

i doubt it. i could see it being a decent amount tighter, or a tad bit larger. 3betting way larger vs a solid button is going to be -ev

DeathDonkey · 04-22-2012, 11:56 PM

lol yea agree with GM, that range is already too wide