Originally Posted by private joker
The problem with waiting for the turn to raise OOP is that turns check through a lot
agreed, but this then leads to the discussion of a topic I've been thinking about for a while which is the check call flop check raise turn line when heads up. Personally I think my range when i take this line is terribly polarized. I either have a turned top pair top kicker plus or I am semi bluffing a draw. By doing this I feel like my range is too heavily weighted toward draws when draws are present on the turn (and more likely to garner a thin call) and too heavily weighted toward big hands when they are not present.
If I widen this range by slow playing the flop I feel like I'm giving up too much value on the flop. Basically, I'd like to know from as many people as possible, "what is your range when you check call flop, check raise turn heads up?" Is it balanced? Don't you think you are giving up too much value on the flop by trying to balance your turn checkraises?
I would like to be able to widen my range when check raising the turn after check calling the flop but I can't bear to not checkraise the flop with my bigger hands OOP. This hand is a good hand to start that discussion because taking Alan's line would take me closer to my goal. I just would not be able to pass up a checkraise on this flop. By the way, this flop doesn't strike me as being as dry as you think it to be alan. Maybe that's because I checkraise all my gutshots on this flop too. Do you? Do others see this as a dry flop?