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Old 07-02-2012, 07:12 PM   #46
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Anything interesting/extra exciting about it?
I finally had the opportunity to play Commerce after living down here for 6 months.
Definitely a different breed of players than Oceans.
How's the 20 game at Oceans during the week?. More than one table?. Good action?. I stopped by on Friday and they couldn't get it going.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:25 PM   #47
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How's the 20 game at Oceans during the week?. More than one table?. Good action?. I stopped by on Friday and they couldn't get it going.
Fridays the 40 game goes so the 20 is not always running. Normally there is always at least one 20 game going on other days with the possible exception of Sundays. However right now it's a little slow. Both props are on vacation and the world series has some players in Vegas.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:27 PM   #48
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Anything interesting/extra exciting about it?
I finally had the opportunity to play Commerce after living down here for 6 months.
Definitely a different breed of players than Oceans.
Nah. Just your standard 15 hour 40/80 session where I could do no wrong.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:41 PM   #49
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Nah. Just your standard 15 hour 40/80 session where I could do no wrong.
Very nice
Didn't realize it ran that long
Will have to check out my Friday schedule this week.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:44 PM   #50
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Another 100bb win I am sure.
Yep... some people are on one side of the Normal curve while some people are on the other
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:36 PM   #51
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out of the online poker loop since black friday. just want a site to play HUHU matches on with play money, this an option on all the US friendly sites?
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:58 PM   #52
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Any of you socalboys reccommend me a good resturant in San diego proper? Bonus points if it isnt fish forward.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:04 PM   #53
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Yep... some people are on one side of the Normal curve while some people are on the other
But not everyone's curve is centered in the same spot
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:26 PM   #54
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Any of you socalboys reccommend me a good resturant in San diego proper? Bonus points if it isnt fish forward.
Have enjoyed Island Prime, Mister As, and Donovan's
All very much meat based.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:28 AM   #55
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... I wanna rub it in just a lil. But you'll be in good company and I'm pretty sure I can offer up some decent wine to go along with the yellowtail and rib eyes and oysters and caviar.


You've got some collateral damage here Leo
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:03 AM   #56
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Anything interesting/extra exciting about it?
I finally had the opportunity to play Commerce after living down here for 6 months.
Definitely a different breed of players than Oceans.
You live in Commerce?
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:08 AM   #57
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It takes a real man to admit when he's wrong, and while I'm not a real man I will pretend to be one here.

I should not have opened this hand UTG, even in this game.

I should not have 4 bet PF, or reraised this hand at any time.

I should never have broken or folded at any time, against this particular player.

I would have admitted this openly yesterday, but I was in the middle of a -90 BB downswing in the 75 when I posted, and was not being honest with you, my fans, my wife, or myself.

It was an all time great game and I, for a time, had an all time great seat. I butchered more than just this one hand (I refuse to discuss any Stud8 hands). I turned a small win into a big loss because of ego, and greed, and was a complete dick to my wife because of my own failings.

I will be in Vegas Thursday- Sunday, if anyone wants to say hi to this despicable degenerate and horrible player, PM me.

P.S. While I clearly made a series of hugely -EV decisions in this hand, any unbiased observer would have to label it one of my most awesome hands ever (and hopefully something I never, ever do again).
Good post.

We will meet on Friday I believe. Can we talk Stud8?

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You live in Commerce?
Nah he lives one exit from me but meant "down here" as Socal.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:29 AM   #59
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Spew is the new norm. Vegas 40/80 is a dick waving contest
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Thanks to everyone who railed the 50k, despite bubbling it was so much fun being alive those 4 days:

It's well-documented that Grinder has poor fundamentals but I find it silly that it drives people to tilt at his success.

Grinder's preflop "badness"(looseness) has a competitive advantages in tournaments where no chips are raked out of the pot and antes range from humongous(NL) to large(Stud games).

That, coupled with people so easily throwing their hands up and justifying ridiculous folds in the name of "It's a tournament" or "chip preservation" helps mitigate his -EV plays. It's further magnified for him and other well-known pros like Ivey who also have an "intimidating presence."

Obviously, he's still too spewy/loose pre and cleaning up some leaks would be a superior strategy, but I just don't find it that ridiculous that he's won the Players' Championship twice.

Luke Schwartz(FullFlush1) is super fun to play with and I DON'T mean in the "He's a fish, +EV for me" way. (I find this attitude slightly disgusting, even when I have it) Whenever we play Razz on 4th, he just covers his eyes and asks the dealer if he's 1st to act and plays accordingly. It's super entertaining to needle Hellmuth and others with him there too.

There was a big all-in at the start of Day 4 in PLO where Luke is all-in for 1.5 avg. stack and clings onto to Isildur, who just sits there awkwardly. So glad WhoJedi got a picture of it, I was gunna do it back to Luke and grab bugstud if I was AI vs. him, but I got moved:


He doesn't claim to be skilled in the non-bigbet games. When I played with him in some WSOP events last year he would openly ask the table or Seiver about hands after showdown. Obviously, if people still want to trashtalk him for actin' a clown in the limit games, they are welcome to, I just find it a bit uncouth.
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