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Old 07-24-2012, 12:25 PM   #511
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Was playing over the weekend and raised pre, b flop, b turn, b river when I caught my flush. Guy I beat announces, "Awr you sucky sucky on me." I am asian. I responded, "Are you trying to make fun of me by speaking in an accent? Should I speak to you in a fat, ugly accent?" He was fat and ugly. Too much?
Had a player who continued to snap his fingers at me to get my attention. I told him off in a very, aggressive way. He was a semi-fish in the game and I regretted doing it. So as long as it won't affect your bottom line, it's fine.

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I think the knowledge gap between a break even 40-80 LHE player and a true expert is pretty large. Might be larger than the gap between a break even 4-8 player and the break even 40-80 player. (not counting that to break even a 4-8 you'd have to be crushing to beat the rake)
It's a canyon.
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Was playing over the weekend and raised pre, b flop, b turn, b river when I caught my flush. Guy I beat announces, "Awr you sucky sucky on me." I am asian. I responded, "Are you trying to make fun of me by speaking in an accent? Should I speak to you in a fat, ugly accent?" He was fat and ugly. Too much?
yes. you won the pot.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:19 PM   #513
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So do you think the following statement is true or false:

A breakeven 40-80 LHE is an expert LHE player.

A friend and I were discussing this and we were surprised at each others answers. I'm sure you all have some opinion on this. I'm not going to qualify it in any way. Just interpret the above statement in the way you think makes the most sense.
What about the casual 40 players who aren't complete fish, but not great players, don't have huge hourly samples but are winners? Where do they fit in?
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What about the casual 40 players who aren't complete fish, but not great players, don't have huge hourly samples but are winners? Where do they fit in?
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:30 PM   #515
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Was playing over the weekend and raised pre, b flop, b turn, b river when I caught my flush. Guy I beat announces, "Awr you sucky sucky on me." I am asian. I responded, "Are you trying to make fun of me by speaking in an accent? Should I speak to you in a fat, ugly accent?" He was fat and ugly. Too much?
From a "good for the game" standpoint, it's probably best to avoid confrontation.

But I can't stand racism, and there's a ton of it at poker tables. There's one regular at Commerce who is generally a reasonably nice guy but who thinks it is so clever to say "I laise" when there are Chinese players at the table and he wants to raise. And you know what? Even though this guy is a fish, I would have NO problem if someone called him out and told him to shut up.

Bigotry is a scourge. It may not be good for the game, but if you want to call it out at the poker table, I have no problem with you doing so.
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Re: July Low-Content Thread

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So do you think the following statement is true or false:

A breakeven 40-80 LHE is an expert LHE player.

A friend and I were discussing this and we were surprised at each others answers. I'm sure you all have some opinion on this. I'm not going to qualify it in any way. Just interpret the above statement in the way you think makes the most sense.
Is he break even based on skill (lol long-run) or results (real-run)?

I would basiucally say no, as a break-even 40 player can not be an expert, but an expert can be break-even at 40.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #517
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Where has PJ gone? I'm going to see dark knight tomorrow in Minnesota (part of road trip); any early reviews without spoilers?

Been looking forward to it for awhile
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:13 PM   #518
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A funny / interesting situation that happened last weekend, I am wondering what would you guys do in my place. A lively, wild Commerce 40 late night game. I am chatting and socializing with a super nice guy to my left, he is drinking and having a great time; he is also a big fish. In the previous hand, he won a pot after flopping trip nines.
This hand, I open OTB with K6 and he calls SB, BB folds. I flop the yatzee of A59 and he check calls. Turn comes 9, he donks and I raise. He asks me "why do you raise?" and I tell him "well, because there is no way you have trip nines back to back". He answers "why not ?"... and to my surprise lifts his cards in the air and shows me K9, then just calls my raise. I am totally stunned and almost yell at him "what are you doing, man?? ", but he just puts his cards back under the protection chip and chuckles; meanwhile the dealer throws the river of 2 which leaves me with the stone cold nuts and he immediately fires again... Does raising here automatically put me in a scumbag category ?
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I don't think so. I would raise and play it off in a laughing manner how you got lucky etc.
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Where has PJ gone? I'm going to see dark knight tomorrow in Minnesota (part of road trip); any early reviews without spoilers?

Been looking forward to it for awhile
Its very good. It's not The Dark Knight to be sure...but its an amazing visual movie and an excellent comic adaptation. I was captivated the whole time. I can't stand Anne Hathaway and actually liked her character the best. I also REALLY liked a cop character that had a prominate role.

Try to see it on IMAX if you are able.
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Where has PJ gone? I'm going to see dark knight tomorrow in Minnesota (part of road trip); any early reviews without spoilers?
Haven't seen it yet. Haven't played poker. Haven't done anything -- buried in work the last month, ~11-hour days 7 days a week.
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Where has PJ gone? I'm going to see dark knight tomorrow in Minnesota (part of road trip); any early reviews without spoilers?

Been looking forward to it for awhile
very good movie, missing the goat joker performance but still very good.

one thing that i really enjoyed was how much they made Gotham look like a real city in this one (a lot of the movie is filmed in the daylight as opposed to previous installments) which allowed me to empathize with the characters a little better.
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Re: July Low-Content Thread

took basically two months off due to some burnout issues. spent a lot of that time thinking about the game but could not get the motivation to get back into the grind. oddly enough that may have been for the best as i might have some interesting work options in the pipeline but for now i needed to get my head clear and get into rape mode. decided to fill my days with nature and see how i felt. i walked like 30 miles in four days and my feet are sore. however i am going back to work so ill see you bitches around town.

you would think lack of money would be enough motivation but nope it was looking at flowers and women in shorts that did it.
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A funny / interesting situation that happened last weekend, I am wondering what would you guys do in my place. A lively, wild Commerce 40 late night game. I am chatting and socializing with a super nice guy to my left, he is drinking and having a great time; he is also a big fish. In the previous hand, he won a pot after flopping trip nines.
This hand, I open OTB with K6 and he calls SB, BB folds. I flop the yatzee of A59 and he check calls. Turn comes 9, he donks and I raise. He asks me "why do you raise?" and I tell him "well, because there is no way you have trip nines back to back". He answers "why not ?"... and to my surprise lifts his cards in the air and shows me K9, then just calls my raise. I am totally stunned and almost yell at him "what are you doing, man?? ", but he just puts his cards back under the protection chip and chuckles; meanwhile the dealer throws the river of 2 which leaves me with the stone cold nuts and he immediately fires again... Does raising here automatically put me in a scumbag category ?
i have frequently been in games where there is a lot of soft playing going on (its wide open and not even close to a collusion issue) and i generally tell people that they are free to do what they want, but i like to play the game hard and i won't return the favors. nobody has ever gotten upset at me and a few of them still softplay me anyway.

you're not a scumbag if you raise but tbh i don't know if i would. i would def explain to him that this is the only time he's getting a soft play from me.

also, why did you talk during the hand to your opponent? its rare that i see somebody do that in a +ev manner.
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also, why did you talk during the hand to your opponent? its rare that i see somebody do that in a +ev manner.
I do it (talk during the hand) super rarely... it's just in this game / situation the environment was really super friendly / warm and I really couldn't just go into tank and shut up, say nothing after he showed his hand... I truly didn't know how to respond and almost said "I raise because I have the nut flush" but thought it would be just plain stupid.... in word, I don't have a lot of well thought of scientific type explanation for what went on there
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