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01-21-2016 , 06:47 PM
Are you saying individual TSA agents are getting kickbacks? If so, that is so clearly horrible that I can't imagine how it was implemented. I thought earlier it was being said that one agency was getting paid by another, which, though not good, is not nearly as bad.
01-21-2016 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
I believe the "drug dog" could provide a positive hit on any piece of luggage so desired to turn up positive. The whole strong smell of MJ thing relies on the expertise of the person doing the search. They're experts, right? Check out this, about how Kansas likes to bust the door down of random folks based on "extensive knowledge" of the police who then ducked the lawsuit by successfully claiming that they were in all ways ignorant about drugs. You'll have to read down a while to where the confirming drug lab basically said "lol, these were clearly tea leaves". Think the test they used had a > 70% false positive rate and was used in exactly the way the manufacturer warned it shouldn't be. This to say that sketchy probable cause is sketchy.

As a paid CI, that TSA agent has a lot of reasons to provide probably cause for a search/seizure. Since he's getting cut in on the proceeds, he's got a lot of reasons to not be an impartial government employee charged with enforcing the law.
I don't disagree, but voluntarily admitting to the authorities that you smoked weed on your way to the airpot isn't going to help your cause. And in this case it was the weed that made his bad smell of weed.
01-21-2016 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Are you saying individual TSA agents are getting kickbacks? If so, that is so clearly horrible that I can't imagine how it was implemented. I thought earlier it was being said that one agency was getting paid by another, which, though not good, is not nearly as bad.
Yes, individual TSA agents were being paid as "confidential sources" to give info under the table. The linked PDF was a DEA memo saying it was wrong -- the DEA's contention was that it was wrong because they shouldn't have had to pay. The other linked article (or one of the others on the same thing) mentioned some Amtrack employee getting $2 million over 10 years to do the same thing.

The next time you want to waste an hour or two, read up on civil forfeiture stories. The ones I linked are only interesting/scary because a lot of us playing midstakes get on to planes carrying more money than mentioned in the story. There are other stories that are much more scary. I always feel OK because I keep the bank receipt for my cash withdrawal, but I'm sure some lawyer around here will correctly explain that it wouldn't stop a DEA agent who really wanted to just rob me.
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but voluntarily admitting to the authorities that you smoked weed on your way to the airpot isn't going to help your cause. And in this case it was the weed that made his bad smell of weed.
You are certainly correct.

Having read a bunch of cash seizure stories, it becomes clear that the "we'll have you wait and get a drug sniffing dog on site" thing is part of the pressure tactics. If you fail to just hand over the money (or just allow search), the dog shows up. Even if there are no drugs, the dog always gives some sign. This bogus probable cause allows search and then they find any cash and keep it.
01-22-2016 , 03:11 AM
Jon Locke is a fish but actually a really good player. Some might even say an expert.


^ Ambiguous or not ambiguous?
01-22-2016 , 04:01 AM
I vote for "not funny."

When ever Jon tries to be funny I picture a guy in a powdered wig trying to hide a giggle behind his hand. His stand up routine isnt nearly as good as his sick autocorrect game
01-22-2016 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by phunkphish
Jon Locke is a fish but actually a really good player. Some might even say an expert.


^ Ambiguous or not ambiguous?
Did you not read the last line of the post. Should clear up all confusion.
01-22-2016 , 12:33 PM
I normally don't like to agree with phish on general principle, but I admit I was confused for a while on how good he was supposed to be. I think that last line is what was added in the edit
01-22-2016 , 12:42 PM
The last line was an edit, but I added it within 5 minutes of the post. While I agree it randy funny it's certisky not ambiguous if you read it after the edit. Maybe it was a reading comprehension post disguised as a stray post?
01-22-2016 , 12:55 PM
I'm pretty sure I read it before the edit because I was going to be one of the responders and then pulled back because I couldn't decide based on your description since the flop check back could range from brilliant to terrible based on the thought process behind it.

Or I just stopped reading 90% of the way through because I was going to talk about something in the first half and didnt expect a surprise ending. It's certainly clear now when I read it
01-22-2016 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
agent who really wanted to just rob me
I think the vast majority of the time, they have good intentions. They truly believe you're a drug dealer or terrorist, and that they're bending the rules so that you don't get away.

One of my favorite Law & Order episodes is one where Briscoe keeps arresting this guy over and over again, only to have him get off on technicalities. Finally, during an arrest, Briscoe claims the guy yelled, "That bitch got what she deserved!" Then the rest of the episode is about the DAs being reluctant to press charges because they "know" the guy is guilty but suspect Briscoe is going a little nuts.

I think the TSA agents get like Briscoe sometimes. They see some sweaty poker player who has $5,000 sewn into the lining of his jacket per B&M's advice, and they "know" he's guilty because they "know" legitimate people don't carry that much cash. Then on interrogation the poker player is nervous because on last year's tax return he netted instead of itemizing, and now the cops may correctly pick up on "dude is totally hiding something" and just seize the cash "knowing" legitimate people will fight in courts to get it back but criminals won't.
01-22-2016 , 03:33 PM
"I agree it randy funny "

agreed
01-22-2016 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
agreed
It certisky isn't ambiguous
01-22-2016 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
I think the TSA agents get like Briscoe sometimes. They see some sweaty poker player who has $5,000 sewn into the lining of his jacket per B&M's advice, and they "know" he's guilty because they "know" legitimate people don't carry that much cash. Then on interrogation the poker player is nervous because on last year's tax return he netted instead of itemizing, and now the cops may correctly pick up on "dude is totally hiding something" and just seize the cash "knowing" legitimate people will fight in courts to get it back but criminals won't.
It is entirely possible that you're exactly right. In that case my "taking this to Vegas hoping not to lose all of it" is the perfect answer, and justice is served.

The news stories about 3rd party groups hired to train cops to steal money is some evidence that there should be real concern about policing for profit. I totally get your "well meaning agent picking up on nonverbal cues and doing his job as best he can" version. Look up Desert Snow, who is being sued for training local cops to take money. It is a big business.

Makes me want to just wire $ to the cage next trip. Since I don't seem to win any more, it will also simplify taxes.
01-29-2016 , 12:04 AM
TIL no limit players don't know what a cold call is

https://twitter.com/PhilGalfond/stat...88196607160320
01-29-2016 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
TIL no limit players don't know what a cold call is

https://twitter.com/PhilGalfond/stat...88196607160320
That makes my head hurt
01-29-2016 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
are any training sites putting out any good LHE stuff?

sorry for excessively high content
Jimmy Fricke (Gobboboy) streams Bovada LHE on twitch. Stakes were like 5/10, 10/20 range of him 3 tabling but was somewhat informative of the 10-20min I watched it once last year. It was more so informative in the sense of getting an idea of how other LAGTAG players think and play on Bovada.

Not sure how often he plays but he definitely had videos in 2015 on Twitch so I'm sure as long as you open a Twitch account, you should be able to view all the old videos he streamed in 2015.

I still enjoy old videos by Ninawilliams on DeucesCrackeded quite a bit because he crushed the games back when I used to prop on AP and his play style definitely will win money at the live and online games that I play.
01-31-2016 , 05:32 AM
I only streamed twice or something. I enjoyed it but my setup isn't very good and no one was watching.
01-31-2016 , 11:42 AM
Try again and post it in here and I'm sure you will get more than 0.
01-31-2016 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Try again and post it in here and I'm sure you will get more than 0.
I would watch. Might get bored and stop watching pretty quickly but I'd give it a shot.
01-31-2016 , 08:19 PM
+1 would watch gobbo stream.

Paging avoidthe9to5, when will latb do another lhe game? None on the schedule for feb.
01-31-2016 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
I only streamed twice or something. I enjoyed it but my setup isn't very good and no one was watching.
i think you just got caught googling yourself

      
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