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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
It's a five bet cap.
To answer the question though you'd have to start with OP telling us why villain knows/thinks we're three betting the hj light. It its because the HJ is a weaker player then there is no need to have a super balanced range. 4b the **** out of him pf with stronger hands and hands that benefit from getting the BB to also fold. Why in the world would you just want to CC with 99 and let the BB ride along getting 5:1? Why would you want to cc with KK when OP already thinks you're 4 light? He's not going to get full credit for his hand and he doesn't want the BB coming along getting great odds
It's been forever since I've played a 2/3 blind but I'd imagine the SB is treating it a lot like he would his BB with the added effect that he doesn't mine the BB coming along. He's got two pretty good, but not great cards. Stuff like J9s, QT, KT, 87s, Axs, etc... Hands that have too much value to just fold, aren't really strong enough to 4b oop, and are fine seeing a 4way flop
So as I said before I don't have a cold calling range in the sb in this specific spot. I agree with all of your points about why 4 betting the sb with any hand you choose to continue with is clearly superior to calling, which is why I know almost certainly that I was not the sb in this hand.
I think the only time I can call the sb is if I know the bb is very tight and straightforward, and i would only do it with the strongest hands. Most tight straightforward players are going to 4 bet or fold from the bb, and if they do 4 bet they are going to c bet the flop near 100% of the time, which will allow me to check raise the field on most flops. If the bb folds preflop which will happen most of the time then I will be playing the hand as if I were the bb. This all being said, I don't remember the last time I played with someone who is like this.