Foxwoods Friday night 20-40 must move game.

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HJ: Solid tough pro. On the tighter side, but mixes it up well and is capable of raising and three betting big streets with bluffs and semi-bluffs with what I think are appropriate frequencies (though recently I called him down probably too light on a big street turn 3 bet bluff he attempted and happened to be "right"). I think he views me as reasonably solid, though probably a bit too loose pre. We have been pretty showdown bound against each other lately.

CO: Very nice guy who happens to be stuck a lot. He is visibly steaming and talking to himself.

HJ opens, CO calls, I 3 the SB with KQ, HJ caps, we call.

I think that the HJ will cap 88+, AQo+, ATs+, KQs, and some QJs, JTs as well in this spot.

Flop: JT4

I check, HJ bets, CO calls, I raise??, they call.

Turn: Q

Now what?


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x/c flop.

As played, x/c turn.

ew I disagree.

I like how you played it so far. If HJ is who I think it is, his range is super wide. Plus the CO's dead money in there, I think you wanna shovel money in here in the flop and on the turn. I check raise the flop and lead the turn, although I think check calling the turn would be ok if you knew HJ would bet. He might check behind though, fearing the check raise. Only reason Im hesitant to lead the turn is I dont think you really want HJ to raise and force out CO.

Interested in other peoples thoughts.

(not sure if im allowed to ask this but was HJ gabe? Or jared?)

Looks good

I don't hate flop xr. If we don't bluff this we have no bluffs. Sometimes thats ok, but here I think it's common for Aq/ak to fold UI.
CO can still call us down, but his presence also pads our drawing odds.
Flatting is safer, but bluffing can get villain to make really bad mistakes.

As played, on turn: count combos of hands you beat vs hands you don't.

Meh, you can x/c KQo. I'd rather be using KcQc, KhQh, KdQd as x/r's. You still have pretty much the bottom of your range on the turn though. Not much sense in bluffing as you have no fold equity and more than enough equity to x/c.

Let's say your pre flop range is something like 88+, ATs+, KQs, and maybe some QJs and KJs. In that case, we will have a fair amount of value checkraise combos TT/JJ/AJs/QQ/KK/AA is 27 combos. If we add in QJs and KJs that is another 6 that can check raise. For simplicity, let's just say we don't have a bet/3bet range here.

With 27-33 value combos, we should be able to bluff at least a few semi bluff combos. I think it would be tough to say exactly how many we should have from a GTO perspective, but intuitively 2-3 combos seems like it is probably in the ball park. So I think you're fine check raising some of your KcQc, KhQh, KdQd.

Since our range is quite strong and it doesn't look like CO is too strong, we should have at least some fold equity on the river vs AK/AQ if those don't improve.

Good posts, some KQ combos def should be checkraised on flop. But I do agree with donk check this turn. Can't think of many good things that happen by betting

OP already knows my opinion, but preflop is good, flop is good, turn is kind of a disaster.

Way to ruin the suspense, JDR ... jeez

Anyway, I ultimately felt that I needed to xr something here and KQs with the BDFD felt like the reasonable candidate. I think villain will have a tough time calling down AK hi unimproved with my range here, as Frankie mentioned.

But here's where I blunder pretty bad. I did auto-pilot and bet the turn, HJ raises, CO folds and I call. Betting the turn is real bad for all kinds of reasons, including this card absolutely smashing his range, shutting out the CO when HJ raises (who will likely contimue far too light here), and being forced to call the raise due to my equity despite potentially drawing dead to a chop.

But now the river comes the brick 7. I know I'll get multiple Jailhouse Conjecture and "I'd never be in this spot" responses, but everyone blunders in hands and you can't just resign like in chess. Can we just xf here?

I always assume 0% fold equity vs a preflop 4 bettor until proven otherwise. So I'd check call the flop.

Also, resigning in chess <<<surrendering in blackjack imo.

I skimmed and thought you had already posted your brutalization of the turn. Apologies .

Here's the thing, maybe GTO will x/r this hand, but we're playing vs. flawed humans that aren't playing GTO, so it's possible there are spots where we just don't need any bluffs in our range and we can still be tough to play against. I've played with OP a decent amount online and vs. him there are very few runouts that I would consider folding AK or AQ ui.

As played, x/f river for partly the same reason we x/c the turn which is that we don't beat much of anything in his range.

This

No one views you as a bit too loose anywhere...nvm pre


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I open A8o HJ OP 3 bets CO and bets twice, I fold turn, he flashes a 2

What was the board? He probably had a set


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Something with a K and three middle cards on it.

Probably k26 and magic flopped a set lol


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He bluffed me with an underpaid

In the moment, I like check call the flop, donk calling the turn, check folding the river...

His range so strong if he raises you OTT....if he flats turn I bet fold river

As played I probably check call turn check call river...if turn gets checked through I b/c river....fxck em!


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I still think the championship line on this hand postflop is x/r flop to try and blow him off high card hands (AK/AQ I don't think even this villain is auto-showing down v OP), check call that turn card (we now beat nothing in his conventional value range but may induce some leveling war bluff with 99 to fold us off a Jack by the river), check-decide river. Turn bet is kamikaze poker against villain of this hand (who is a strong TAG pro).

so what happened?