i open hijack a9, get 3bet by sb, bb fold, i call

tt4, x/b/c

tt44, b/r/c

I think this would make a lot more sense if you were CO or BTN and SB had a lot more 10 outers in his range (KQo, KJo, K9s, JQs, JQo, etc.) that could fold. As it stands, the only 10 outers are hands like KQs and maybe KQo/QJs/KJs if he's on the looser side. If you almost never have the best hand and your opponent never folds a better hand, FSDR doesn't make much sense.

Ewwww no.

i honestly don't know what to do with my range. should i be delaying everything until river? if i have a raising range on turn should i be bluffing with q and j hi?

i figured i'm never getting better to fold, but didn't want to get owned by 66 and didn't think aa would 3bet, and figure he'd have to give up with all of his bluffs on river.

i realize i'm in the middle of my range and that's the worst part to raise, but thought the face up rio aspect of the hand make things different. any tips?

With this hand, I don't think there's much you can do other than just calling down. Your hand is too strong to fold and not strong enough to raise. I know it feels like your hand is face up after you call twice here but you should be peeling with some worse hands too and delaying some value hands til the river as well.

i thought i'd fold turn with kq. i only have 20% equity and will have huge rio. i also thought since i'm putting in 1 bet good and 2 bets bad most of the time, i might as well put the 2 bets in now and leverage some fold equity vs 6 outers and maybe even a better hand. i do have more t's in my range at least. maybe i'm wrong in assessing how villain should play? should he be barreling off with jts, qjs or k hi?

That's a fine exploitative adjustment against a timid player. Folding KQ is certainly exploitable, and thus bad against a more aggressive opponent. Villain should certainly be bluffing 22 and 33 and maybe his lowest suited connector. His Jhigh+ are too strong to bluff with imo.

oh ok. i didn't have those hands in his range. the bottom of my range in villain's spot is 55+. i guess i'm too nitty. if that were the case, wouldn't 22 and 33 be too small of a % of his range to induce with? or maybe villain should have other hands too, like t9s?

Oh I forgot you opened HJ, so maybe those hands shouldn't 3bet. Regardless, he should have some bluffs from the bottom of his range, whatever that is.

i only have 8 combos of jts and jqs as the bottom of my range as villain. i think if i'm villain, i'm always betting ax on river. so maybe he has to barrel with qj and jt?

Ace high seems like a perfect bluff catcher to just call down with. If he has an A or a pair > 4's I doubt he's folding and if you have him beat he's in bad shape with a max of 6 outs. If we play call or fold in position on the flop we could raise the turn with some of our stronger hands like a pair of 9's and fold some of our weaker floats like QJs.

If we're in our opponents shoes, should we bet or check call with A high on the turn? The SB is going to have to check some rivers after getting smoothied on the flop and turn so we can hope to show down our A high on the cheap some % of the time.

Yeah, he should x/c with weaker aces so his checking range isn't too weak or polarized, and bet his stronger ones.

We should bet this flop 100% imo thus we should never be in this spot on the turn.

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I'd call the turn readless. Then I'm probably calling 100% of rivers with this particular hand. Can't think of any river that I'd fold at the moment.

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I haven't used the free showdown raise in years and I don't think I'm missing much, if any, value because of it. The long term effects of such a low frequency play on one's winrate are negligible to say the least. So you feel good about yourself when it works and you win an extra bet once in a while. How much are you really gaining? Not much imo. Just call and let them bluff. Sure sometimes you get owned by 77 or AKo spikes a King on the river and you'll think you could've won the pot if you had raised the turn. However those situations are medium rare. Most of the time you're either crushed by AT+ or you have a bunch of outs vs 55-99, or you're bluffcatching vs a worse hand, or you're really hoping an ace comes off vs JJ-KK. You have a bluffcatcher so bluffcatch.

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If I somehow misclicked 3 bet preflop with 33 or 22, and then I misclick checked the flop, I'd check the turn with those hands. Then if the turn checks through, I'd bluff with those hands as they are the very bottom of my range. Then when called I'm gonna fastroll my hand and be like "I got the board yo, wtf u got?!"

villain checked the flop?

Flop action says xbc.

I guess that just makes the FSDR even worse. OP should have checked behind on the flop IMO. Villain has Trips+ a lot after that action.

It seems really bad at first but I don't think it's that bad of a spot actually if we make a few assumptions: mostly that villain assumes we never fold A hi on river and gives up on all bluffs, villain won't 3 bet bluff turn and we are calling 100% of rivers anyways.

If all those are true we make more money folding out the 6 outers and we make ththan same when he has a pair. There's also non 0% chance he folds Ax here.

Now obviously if we start to rises this turn, there are some problems but vs lots of straightforward players it's ok.

sorry, b/c

Agreed. King and queen high will usually barrel off here and raising doesn't really accomplish anything. Good players will understand what you are doing and just 3 bet your face with 55+.

i completely disagree with everything you said. and 3betting 55 is insane.

I'd check back the flop here

ok for me this hand is an easy bet/ call flop followed by calling down .

The turn i have no idea what you are thinking.
No better hands fold and no khigh call as well, right ?

i didn't bet flop, i called. messed up op. if villain checked, i def check back

i see, well yes in that case i would check behind flop 2 but still, the same idea apply for the turn.