Don't ever run bad sir.

I tried to watch the first ep yesterday... show is garbage. They try to spin horse racing as an exciting sport to watch, but no one can make that possible. I was hoping for some poker action, but all they were able to make was some weak commerce name dropping.

I only saw the first episode -- yeah the dialogue is heavy with horse racing stuff that flew over my head. But like any David Milch show, the atmosphere is going to be dense as **** for a bit before we settle into the milieu. Michael Mann, on the other hand, is such an awesome director and this is the best thing he's done since Collateral. Visually it's outstanding. Clearly not "garbage" (lol).

EDIT: I did laugh at the preview scenes of the Hustler poker game. People in suits, everything looking glamorous like Vegas.

I didn't play in it because I didn't feel adequately staked for it until towards the end of the trip; and at that point I was following the Red Army strategic doctrine of concentrating my resources in the area of my biggest gains.

Next time I'll bring more cash and be ready to take a shot or two.

sailboats, with due respect, but saying that luck is "garbage" invalidates your opinion on all movies/shows from this point forward. you can have issues with it, but dismissing it as garbage is beyond ridiculous.

I can't stop watching/listening to the intro to TGWTDT. Awesome and insane all at the same time.

Only good part of the film.

GM, well maybe i was being too harsh, its crap... not total garbage! Haha but seriously my opinions on films/shows aren't the greatest. Everyone should definitely use PJs recommendations as a default

just got back from my first trip to commerce and socal in general. lhe is alive!

bbb is gonna post epic TR at some point.

good god, glad you two are out of LA. you not going to do a trip report yourself? was an honor to meet each of you.

I didn't even think that part was that great. It was just a rip off of the recent Bond movies.

Just saw the second episode and this scene. Major LOLs here -- yes, the players added money to their stack after the flop thanks to the floor ruling, but it was done on an AQ8 flop with our hero holding KK (vs. villain's AQ). "Ooh, AQ8 -- what an awesome flop for KK, let me go to my car and get 25k more in cash."

Also, they make the guy convert the cash to chips just so he can shove it in the middle and wait for the turn and river to be dealt -- they don't even let him keep the cash on the table. Wastes everyone's time while the dealer sits there counting out 250 bills and having the floor come over with racks of chips.

That said, at least this scene didn't have the glamor of the preview scenes (which were from the whole season). Nobody in suits, nothing fancy -- it was Hustler as it really is; sunlight pouring into the casino, working class dudes sitting around quietly.

But the dealer was making a lot of disgusted and surprised faces during the hand, as if this was the first time she's seen people gamble.

cross posted from the ******* card thread:

Hi Wacky. I have no idea why I stumbled into this thread since I never read it but I feel like this hand is actually pretty interesting and may even be worth discussing in the main forum. I will drag it into the low-content thread so a few can see it. This is a pretty good example of a spot where you need to think of absolute vs relative hand strength. The NL guys think about this more since river decisions for your whole stack have larger consequences than they do in limit. I feel like you need to hand read a little better in general and this is a spot where as silly as it sounds you should just call the river. I always try and think about hand ranges but sometimes the action narrows it down to the exact hand. What did you think he had? If you never read surfdoc's theorem I think this is a perfect example of it.

The SB didn't 3-bet preflop. His KK combos should be pretty heavily discounted. There are 6 combos of K7 that make pretty good sense and two combos of J7 that make ok sense. So like 7 combos we beat. We lose to one combo of 77 and like 1 discounted combo of KK. So we're getting well over 2:1 on a raise/call even if he never 3-bets worse but we still always call. Think raise/call is fine on the river. Plus we get extra value from BB's straight/flush so we don't even need to be getting 2:1.

Television and poker is so boring seriously guys can we have some boobs or howmany stream of consciousness rants or something

I know, rite? "Yes, an ace flopped, let me go in pocket here." Hand two is funny as well -- sick value shove by third set on the KQT9x three-flush board. But I thought the detail of the lady vacuuming redeemed a lot of other wrongs: it showed us the sunlight was dawn light, and nothing says degen like seeing the vacuuming lady.

PS - Sorry, my bad.

Boobies!

this is an outrage

YOU MAD BRO?!

HATERS GONNA HATE!

Do you really think he leads the turn card multiway into our flop cap on that turn card with K7 or J7?

he has two pears.

Edit: not much difference between leading K7 or J7 and 77. The flush or straight is the most likely thing that beat all of those hands on that turn.

I thought you might say that and for the most part it is true but he most likely isn't thinking that way. He thinks I HAVE A SET AND THAT IS AN UNBEATABLE HAND.

I'd play Wacky's hand exactly the same. The mistake would be continuing to raise.