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02-13-2012 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Gary
I think Lin is easier to like a) because we don't know anything bad about him yet and b) because he's an underdog.

Granted, Tebow is an underdog as well, but he's really a post-hype underdog that people want to succeed because so many people trashed him. In college, he was a juggernaut on the best team in the best conference. Since then, he's published a book, circumsized people, been in anti abortion ads, seen his draft stock plummet, and been (rightfully?) trashed as someone who can never make it. Now, he's on the rise as this miraculous QB that is admittedly fun to watch; however, Tebow's off-field personality will always outweigh whatever he does on the field because he's so divisively religious.

Lin doesn't come with all of the baggage. He slept on his friend's couch, he made stupid Xanga blogs, he's really a blank slate at this point with a more accessible backstory.
Yah I get some of that.

I'm sure I read too much of the SE forum but the level of backlash against 'hyped guys' is just pathetic, imo. I mean you expect Gary Danielson, et al on CBS who does SEC games every week to not praise 1 of the best ever college players - really?
Now the "he just wins" ******ed rhetoric from pro analysts this past year when he would throw for 70 yards I can agree was annoying.

re: Religion - whatever. I'm no right winger or at all religious, but it just doesn't bother me. Hating someone who mentioned God in an interview and somehow equating that to "throwing religion in my face" like you're being forced to go to Church is imo ridiculous. Some liberals are just so anxious and proud to let everyone know they're an atheist that it gives the Bill Maher's of the world an excuse to exercise the very same "fake outrage" that he mocks conservatives for.
02-13-2012 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DrElo
Also I'm headed out to West Coast live poker land soon, and if anybody spots me playing 300/600, come up to me and I'll ship you a free bet. Can't afford to play those games when I don't have the option of 4 tabling 30/60 for 15 hours after a run bad. I'm the mid-20s white guy with a blue hat and glasses that people are tilting at.
has 3/6 been running at commerce? i am thinking of coming down next week and i'd probably offer you the same deal lol.
02-13-2012 , 02:45 PM
the whole lin vs tebow thing is apples and oranges. tebow is arguably the greatest college football player ever and got drafted in the first round while lin played ball at harvard and snuck into the nba undrafted. tebow came into the league as overhyped and overrated, lin is a true feel good underdog story esp when you consider the AzN angle.

and unlike tebow, lin has actually been good. he's been arguably the best player in the league the past week.

regarding religion, lin's mostly been about basketball this whole time while tebow thanks god first, his teammates second and has been in anti-abortion ads so it's way different there too.
02-13-2012 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Palomino
Yay free money for me! I'll be out there, and I'll be looking for you.
holla!

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Originally Posted by Chris Daddy Cool
has 3/6 been running at commerce? i am thinking of coming down next week and i'd probably offer you the same deal lol.
I dunno about now, assume those games are running because of LAPC, played the 3/6 when I was out there 2 months ago when nothing special was going on. Ran alright, but lost my ass in a 2/4. Huhu 2/4 after being awake for 30 hours is probably not super +ev. And yeah, you should offer me that deal as well, I know you're also not shy about getting your gamble on at times

You are obv right regarding Lin/Tebow.

I like that he can run a PnR, unlike EVERYONE ELSE on that Knicks squad. Shumpert? Bibbycorpse? lolz. Chandler is definitely loving all those lobs. He's gonna continue to turn the ball over a ton, especially as long as he's running with Novak/Walker/Jeffries et. al., but has reasonable handles, size and some sneaky herky-jerky athleticism. He's a very good fit for the D'Antoni system. The form on his jumper is gross as hell, but overall I think he'll stick in the league. I hope they don't insta-start Baron Davis over him when BDiddy comes back (assume not).

Last edited by DrElo; 02-13-2012 at 03:12 PM. Reason: Lin def likes Gawd too though
02-13-2012 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Daddy Cool
has 3/6 been running at commerce? i am thinking of coming down next week and i'd probably offer you the same deal lol.
2-4 has been running a ton.
02-13-2012 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
What does "technical insight" mean in relation to being an NFL QB?

You're already wrong, because he's already succeeded. He went 8-5 as a starter and was named as next season's starter.
Maybe I am, but you obviously don't understand what it is I'm describing. When I say insight, I literally mean "internal sight". And when I say technical, I suppose I'm describing what it is I imagine a QB operating on the highest level must be going through, in his head, while in the midst of a game. If you still don't understand what I'm talking about, then never mind.

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Wat? If you admit this, you're saying he can be an adequate QB, because it was the only area he was far below average in.
No.
02-13-2012 , 06:52 PM
[x] confirmed guyontilt hates religion.
02-13-2012 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Daddy Cool
the whole lin vs tebow thing is apples and oranges. tebow is arguably the greatest college football player ever and got drafted in the first round while lin played ball at harvard and snuck into the nba undrafted. tebow came into the league as overhyped and overrated, lin is a true feel good underdog story esp when you consider the AzN angle.

and unlike tebow, lin has actually been good. he's been arguably the best player in the league the past week.

regarding religion, lin's mostly been about basketball this whole time while tebow thanks god first, his teammates second and has been in anti-abortion ads so it's way different there too.
This.

And, Tebow is the wholesome, good looking, all american guy who ****ed the prom queen. In contrast, Lin is the geeky, less physically gifted, couch sleeping nerd that may actually be humble where Tebow is just pretending to be humble.

I am a Lin fan. I am not a Tebow fan. I am not sure why exactly. I think the religion thing may have something to do with it but mostly just because that is what my gut is telling me.

I was also a little unsure of what "technical insight" meant GOT so thanks for clarifying. I am still a bit confused though since it seems like Tebow has the intangible factors and intelligence to succeed but his biggest problem is that his throwing motion/arm strength is just not top shelf for this level.
02-13-2012 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by surfdoc
And, Tebow is the wholesome, good looking, all american guy who ****ed the prom queen.
Except that he didn't, since he claims to be a virgin.
02-13-2012 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by surfdoc
I was also a little unsure of what "technical insight" meant GOT so thanks for clarifying. I am still a bit confused though since it seems like Tebow has the intangible factors and intelligence to succeed but his biggest problem is that his throwing motion/arm strength is just not top shelf for this level.
Well, I obviously have no idea what I'm actually talking about, since I have no idea about anything to do with NFL football, but yeah.
02-13-2012 , 11:59 PM
Agree with most of what people have said: the religion thing is the ONLY Tebow similarity (and downside) to this whole Linsanity. (I just watched his post-practice video from today on the Knicks website he essentially said he stays grounded from media attention because he knows he's a sinner and his identity is in Christ . Bleh. Real talk, someone needs to get that kid some Sam Harris books.)

But besides that, the underdog/out-of-nowhere and Asian-American storylines are uniquely his, plus he's balling it almost as good as anyone can possibly ball right now. It's pretty epic and legit. Tebow's got nothing on him, imho.
02-14-2012 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
got 7 bet on the turn today holding 45o on a392dd and when he 7bet he said "i guess we have the same hand" so i called. J diamond hits on the river i c/c and he turns over the KTdd, lol's and says "slowed ya down, huh?"
In a way, you're both winners. In another, more accurate way, that guy is the winner.
02-14-2012 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jesse9999
In a way, you're both winners. In another, more accurate way, that guy is the winner.
That's my favorite Simpsons quote ever.
02-14-2012 , 12:54 AM
it's a good one
02-14-2012 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jesse9999
In a way, you're both winners. In another, more accurate way, that guy is the winner.
AHAHAHHAHAHAAHA. A+
02-14-2012 , 01:31 AM
LOL, I just realized Jeremy Lin and I went to the same church growing up in the Bay Area.
02-14-2012 , 01:31 AM
Jesus H Christ. Who says Joker runs bad again?
02-14-2012 , 01:58 AM
So today I cashed out of a poker game and had 1 chip short of a full stack, which perturbed my OCD nature, so I asked a friendly 2p2er in another game if she would flip me for my one chip on the next flop (red/black style obv). She won the first one and I tried to martingale, 6 red flops later I lost $1600 trying to win a $25 chip and tilt quit the flips.
02-14-2012 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
So today I cashed out of a poker game and had 1 chip short of a full stack, which perturbed my OCD nature, so I asked a friendly 2p2er in another game if she would flip me for my one chip on the next flop (red/black style obv). She won the first one and I tried to martingale, 6 red flops later I lost $1600 trying to win a $25 chip and tilt quit the flips.
Wow, surprised she let you double or nothing that many times.
02-14-2012 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
Wow, surprised she let you double or nothing that many times.
Why would that surprise you?
02-14-2012 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
So today I cashed out of a poker game and had 1 chip short of a full stack, which perturbed my OCD nature, so I asked a friendly 2p2er in another game if she would flip me for my one chip on the next flop (red/black style obv). She won the first one and I tried to martingale, 6 red flops later I lost $1600 trying to win a $25 chip and tilt quit the flips.
i think this is one of my favorite stories you've ever posted
02-14-2012 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Why would that surprise you?
I dunno, seems very different betting $800 on red black vs betting $25. Do you think it's poor etiquette to not allow him to martingale forever? I mean on a 0EV bet, martingaling is pretty good for the person increasing the bets.
02-14-2012 , 02:27 AM
Trying to win his firstborn rumplestiltkin-style obvies.
02-14-2012 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GuyOnTilt
Maybe I am, but you obviously don't understand what it is I'm describing. When I say insight, I literally mean "internal sight". And when I say technical, I suppose I'm describing what it is I imagine a QB operating on the highest level must be going through, in his head, while in the midst of a game. If you still don't understand what I'm talking about, then never mind.
Nonsensical.

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Originally Posted by gameoverjc
[x] confirmed guyontilt hates religion.
And may burn in purgatory for eternity.
02-14-2012 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
So today I cashed out of a poker game and had 1 chip short of a full stack, which perturbed my OCD nature, so I asked a friendly 2p2er in another game if she would flip me for my one chip on the next flop (red/black style obv). She won the first one and I tried to martingale, 6 red flops later I lost $1600 trying to win a $25 chip and tilt quit the flips.
But, but, but.. YOU MIGHT HAVE WON THE NEXT FLIP!!

      
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