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07-24-2012, 02:24 PM
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enthusiast
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
Your 66 hand blows. Why take the time to make the reads on players and do something you shouldn't do?
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07-25-2012, 02:00 AM
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#32
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by Richard Hurtz
Your 66 hand blows. Why take the time to make the reads on players and do something you shouldn't do?
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You realize sometimes all the limpers fold, and I still have very good equity f they don't?
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07-25-2012, 01:06 PM
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
You realize sometimes all the limpers fold, and I still have very good equity f they don't?
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i don't think that sometimes exists tbh, though your 2nd point is fair.
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07-25-2012, 09:35 PM
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
i don't think that sometimes exists tbh, though your 2nd point is fair.
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It exists, I've seen it, but not enough to make raising better than calling. Still, my point was that i believe raising is suboptimal, not awful.
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07-26-2012, 01:53 AM
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
It exists, I've seen it, but not enough to make raising better than calling. Still, my point was that i believe raising is suboptimal, not awful.
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yeah i don't think it's awful, that word is bandied about so loosely it's lost its true meaning
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07-26-2012, 07:12 PM
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Yes, you barred
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
yeah i don't think it's awful, that word is bandied about so loosely it's lost its true meaning
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Agreed. You want to see awful come watch me play for a day or two. I'll ****ing show you awful.
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07-26-2012, 10:55 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
yeah i don't think it's awful, that word is bandied about so loosely it's lost its true meaning
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I actually think its very underutilized
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07-27-2012, 01:59 AM
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#38
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
You realize sometimes all the limpers fold, and I still have very good equity f they don't?
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Get real. All the limpers will sometimes fold for two more back to them. Doesn't happen
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07-27-2012, 01:28 PM
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
I actually think its very underutilized
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this is an absolutely awful comment -- in fact, it is not only one of the worst comments i've ever read, but one of the worst things i've ever encountered in life, and probably one of the worst things in the history of the world
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07-27-2012, 02:42 PM
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by Richard Hurtz
Get real. All the limpers will sometimes fold for two more back to them. Doesn't happen
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Yawn. They always have it when they raise, they are never bluffing in that spot, they ever fold to a river raise, you cant beat limit holdem cause they call too much, etc.
You should raise the level of your discourse mr. Absolutes. In the meantime there are always exceptions in every spot, I've seen them.
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07-28-2012, 01:27 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
Folding turn in hand 2 is throwing away a ton of equity in a huge pot, unless you can be sure solid player is only raising 2 pair/sets, and can never be making a FSDR. If solid player has any one pair hands in their range it's a snap call if not raise.
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duly noted.
just to clarify. When I said bad it does not equal awful. It's bad as in --- mistake... and you know that and it happens (to me several times a day at least)  ...
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07-30-2012, 10:55 PM
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adept
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by jesse8888
hand 1 is an abortion imo.
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Agreed, WTF just call and hope to flop huge.
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07-30-2012, 11:30 PM
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veteran
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
At first I thought the turn raise in hand one was pretty bad but now I think raising and folding have to be pretty close. Preflop is not awful but it is incorrect IMO.
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08-03-2012, 07:35 PM
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Re: Do They Know I Know What They Know?
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Originally Posted by Richard Hurtz
Get real. All the limpers will sometimes fold for two more back to them. Doesn't happen
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Ive been watching for this lately, and ive seen the first limper fold in this spot 4 times the last 2 days in passive 20 games. The rest of the limpers didn't always fold, once it ended HU, three times three ways. Dead money plus a pair HU/3 ways is a pretty decent spot.
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08-05-2012, 06:13 PM
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adept
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertCat
Ive been watching for this lately, and ive seen the first limper fold in this spot 4 times the last 2 days in passive 20 games. The rest of the limpers didn't always fold, once it ended HU, three times three ways. Dead money plus a pair HU/3 ways is a pretty decent spot.
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Just to confirm, for it to end up HU/3 ways after 6 limpers it means 5 or 6 limpers folded to the 3 bet. Right?
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