7 handed. Bad lag opens LJ. I 3bet A9ss in the CO. Button (nondescript ~30 yo dude) coldcaps. Blinds fold, 3 ways for 13 sb.

Flop Td 9d 2s. LJ donks in tempo, I...

Call. I certainly don't think the LAG in middle position is donking anything that didn't hit this board, and with no information, a cold-capper is going to have mostly hands that crush us. Basically the only time we are really ahead here is when the LAG has a straight draw and/or diamonds and the button has AK (and remember, the ace in our hand makes AK less likely for the button). Proceed with caution.

Call and hope to see the turn for just 2 bets. If it goes raise and 3 bet behind you I think you have to fold. Any idea how wide the button could be here? Like, there are guys here who just have AA.

I wouldn't proceed any further personally, I'd give one of the two players credit for beating 2nd pair. I'd give the LJ a draw big enough to be the favorite over a/9 as well.

I hope you're not suggesting that we fold getting 14:1...

I think the pot odds are good enough here w/ your bdfd, and middle pair/good kicker to call and pray it doesn't go raise/3!

Remember though that this lag didn't get a chance to re-raise since the pot was capped. There are still hands like KT, JT, etc, that this guy might still have.

Is 'coldcap' just a cute way to say 'cap'?

There are a couple of arguments for raising, but that seems a bit spewy. folding is ridiculous. I'm calling.

No, it means the capper is making his first action on the street.

If I raise and someone 3-bets and you cold-call, I can then cap it. That's a cap.

If UTG raises and MP 3-bets and I'm on the button, I haven't even looked at my cards yet. If then I cap it, it's a cold-cap.

Like a coldcall.

What these guys mean is that cold-capping is enormously strong. Someone is coming into the pot with a 4-bet, having put no other money in yet. The difference is if you've just raised with something like JTs and seen a bunch more people enter, you may get the idea that you have a nice gambol gambol hand and decide to cap after a 3-bet. But very few people would look down at JTs after it's been 3-bet and decide instead of folding they'll just fire 4 bets into the pot immediately. We're saying usually they have TT+/AK minimum.

Got it. Makes sense cuz I'm definitely capping JTs with ****tons of action because I like the gambol but definitely not Coldcapping it....well maybe

Thanks for the clarification.

Yup. You'd love playing with me i'm easy.

I just don't see 2nd pair fading two the turn and river against two players, who likely have a lot of live cards. I'm sure most would take a card off and reevaluate the turn. I see you're hand as a 2 outter, the A's are tainted enough I wouldn't assume I had the nuts when I spiked one.

Wait....what?

Two pair > one pair

Forgot the bdfd, probably bringing it closer to a call on the flop(and hope it's not popped behind)

Still don't like 2 guys in against me oop with 2nd pair. One looks like they have a oesd or a flush draw, with overs and the other person coldcapping probably having an overpair.

Ya easy call and fold for two ...

I think he is questioning whether we will see a turn card at 14:1 when we call since we are not closing action and have PF cold capper behind us. Getting strung along for multiple bets if hero gets squeezed is very problematic. I think calling and hoping to peel for a single bet is right, as is folding if it is raised and then 3! back to us after we call.