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Button is very laggy pre, can be agro on flop, tends to mello out on big streets. He probably sees me as tight. He is c Betting turn a high percentage but not always.

It's folded to button who raises, I call in BB with Qd5d.

6c2c3s....how do you all proceed here? I typically check/call twice and decide on the river. I think CR paint turns seems reasonable but he is a bit sticky.

I'd check raise the flop.

On the button, his range is going to be all over the place.

You are beating that range.

Even better.

Good to know.

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I know a good group of posters here that don't have a 3 bet range here pre, but I find this a great spot for it.

Given all the circumstances, I'm blasting away at this.

Even if he was opening 100% percent, which he is not, I would only have a very slight equity edge and I'd be OOP to an agro/sticky player.

Seems like a bad spot to blast away.

i don't like c/r'ing flop at all. and 3betting pre is terrible. if i was to make a play at the pot, i'd c/r a 7, 8 or maybe a 9 on the turn.

Pgc: I'm one of the people who believes in 3bing bb v btn. I wonder what your thought process is though. You can't simply blast all hands that have an equity advantage vs BTN range. That's a completely wrong way to build your 3b range. that is what your post suggests. That will leave your flat range way decapitated and why most here avoid 3bing.


Against an aggro sticky player I like your plan of x/c twice ui. Sticky to me means he's not folding AHi OTR or khi Ott, so your range should be value heavy. The bluffs you do have should be much worse than qhi, which still has some sdv

* and barrel off anything that's not an ace, king or paired board.

I don't like this option against this player. I prefer to play small ball against lags with hands like these and pick my spots when I decide to Bluff. I agree with Phunk that this guy isn't folding K high on turn or Ace high on the river.

Why would you pick these cards to make a play with?

I would think CR a paint card would be more effective.

Based on the fact that you said he's aggro on flop, I'm going to assume he will rebluff the flop with flush draw with clubs (with two overcards to the flop).

Taking that into account I will probably check/call flop. You should have enough flop c/r range that you can exploit villain's leak that he 3 bets too frequently on the flop with a wide range. Specifically, you should be c/r ing flush draws, 6x, and pocket pairs above the board if you're never 3 betting preflop here in the BB against a Button steal.

I may consider c/r flop if you had like Qs5s or Qs4s since the flush redraw gives us decent equity on run outs that'll make it difficult for villain if they play Tight Passive (Mello?) on the big streets. Mello I imagine means villain goes into call down mode on the big streets with Ahi+.

How to play turn depends on run out.

I don't mind. Chk/Raising turn but I'd rather chk/call turn since Qhi has showdown value and is fine to have in your flop, turn check call range since our equity should be decent against a Button steal range who continuation bets turn and river.

Probably give up river unimproved if you chk/call Flop and Turn.

Whether you chk/call river unimproved, donk river on scare cards, c/r river on scare cards, c/r turn on scare cards (paint), all depends on your history with villain and what you think will be a credible story that will force villain to fold a better or worse hand.

I think it should depend on his postflop tendencies. If he likes to bluff a lot postflop, then sure go ahead and check call. If he's on the next level and uses his lag image to get paid off light postflop and he value bets thinly to exploit that lag image, then your check calling on the flop plays right into his strategy.

Regarding the bold:

Then give up on the river and continue the bluff with your hands that have less chance of winning at showdown.

I bet you guys are sick of me posting links, so I'll just say that on dynamic boards I construct my bluffing range with the high equity draws like this one on this flop at high frequency, and with the low equity draws at low frequency. This is because dynamic boards will not offer enough fold equity for the low equity bluffs to be profitable. I'm not concerned with folding out better hands on the flop or turn, but instead I seek to maximize my draw equity when called, which will maximize the profitability of my bluffing range. Then on the river, I end up with a good mix of hands that can give up and win at showdown occasionally or bluff the river in an attempt to fold out better hands.