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Old 06-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #16
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I think he more likely has a lolslowplay set. I only think that because those hands are far more likely IMO pre flop. The hands hero loses to are kind of a stretch pre flop and u usually know the guys who would play those hands for three bets.
Yeah I mean usually I would agree except history according to hero says villain would always raise the turn with a set.

So I think flush is the more likely hand.
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:15 PM   #17
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Re: Bet/Check/Raise ????

betting the turn is weird. if you think he's going to fc you, 4b flop. if you don't, then he should be stronger than you and you shouldn't bet.

as played i agree with DpR i think. altho certain live guys are never ambitious enough to raise a set on a 3flush card. if he's one of them, calling is fine. 65s theory is interesting but he'd have to be super loose PF -- do we know that? but any kind of reasonable hand reading plus combo analysis has us being ahead plenty. i dunno, this is really lolive-player-dependent.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:30 AM   #18
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Re: Bet/Check/Raise ????

bet river...call a raise cause u won't ever get called by worse hand if u 3bet river if we asume villan is a good reg.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:41 PM   #19
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No, not with that action. The villain 3-bet the flop and then popped the Jc river. He doesn't have J7, so what does he have? This is a pretty retarded way to play an overpair but if he has it I guess I miss a BB of value by flatting the river -- but OP says that his history with villain says an overpair would raise the turn. I'm expecting more to see either 65s that lolslowplayed the turn, or Ac7c or some other club combo that backed into a flush. And if he has some T9 hand that made a spewy flop play then I would laugh but not be surprised.
Well, I did 3bet the River? I just kept thinking he had flopped a set or had 99 10's or Q's.... Ac7c that flats 3bets preflop ??? Just did not read him for that and something like KQ or AQ of clubs just does not 3bet that flop.....

He had Td9d and Yes I did laugh and that's why posted the hand.

Looking back I 4bet flop and does he folds??? Guess Not! Then sees the Turn and is never folding the open ender! That river was just a bad card that me in trouble....
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:01 PM   #20
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Looking back I 4bet flop and does he folds??? Guess Not!
You want T high to call as many bets as possible on the flop, not fold, right?
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:31 PM   #21
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Re: Bet/Check/Raise ????

LP took 3 to the face pf, 3!'d your flop raise, and called your donk.

Have to bet here, this line screams 7x to me. Or at least something that isn't putting money into the pot willingly at showdown.
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Old 06-07-2012, 05:43 PM   #22
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Re: Bet/Check/Raise ????

I think its a little ambitious to b/3! That river. Given action villain picks up draws on that turn or already flopped it. Its hard to get most players to get 3 bets or more on the river with much less then the nuts. River 3! Is simply paying off other monsters and getting bluffs to fold.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:01 PM   #23
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20/40 game has been normal game.... Aggressive player raises UTG... I'm UTG3 been playn maybe 1 hr showed down a couple of winning hands. I did lost a huge pot when I Flopped set vs set out of the SB blind.... LP has been here like 10 hands or so??? Played with him before he goes to showdown light.

UTG open raise, I 3bet with red JJ , LP flats so does UTG

Flop: 4d3c7h rainbow
Utg bets, I raise, LP 3bets ??? Utg folds and I call

Turn: 8c which does put 2 clubs out there
I bet and he calls

River: J of clubs !
I bet/check/raise ???? What do you think
Grunch

I wouldn't donk the turn. As played of.course you have to Bet.
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