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12-27-2016 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by draftdodger
I post behind the button and when I think its gets folded around to me, I announce "raise" (without looking at my cards). I put out what I think are the requisite chips but am told I owe another bet: unbeknownst to me (but knownst to everyone else), it has already been raised. So I am compelled to 3-bet. Both blinds calls, and now the original raiser caps. I look to see 3-2o. But I can't fold getting a zillion to one so I call. Needless to say the board ends up A-2-3--2-T and I catch a break when the preflop capper folds K-K face up to my river bet and I don't have to show. I debated turning them up, but elected not to.
There's no way I would pass up the chance to show that one once I get there, has to be super profitable.
12-27-2016 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Not sure about "behind the button." You posted both blinds so that you get the button next hand? The two blinds called a 3 bet having posted $0? That's awesome. Or is it that you posted in the CO?
I think when most people say behind the button they are talking about CO.

Also, tough decision. I would love to show it, but I also don't want to give away that much information to everyone.
12-27-2016 , 02:55 AM
At the supermarket. In front of me is a man and wife with ~24 items in their shopping cart, lined up in the express "12 items or less" lane. Not sure if they are brilliant or horrible people.
12-27-2016 , 03:59 AM
My local grocery store is very grammar conscious and their signs say "12 items or fewer."
12-27-2016 , 05:24 AM
In the near future, the sign will just read "12 (emoji for items) (emoji for less/fewer)"
12-27-2016 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KL03
I think when most people say behind the button they are talking about CO.

Also, tough decision. I would love to show it, but I also don't want to give away that much information to everyone.
What information are you giving away?
12-27-2016 , 04:02 PM
I guess that you give away that you are raising your post 100% to anyone who realized what happened.
12-27-2016 , 04:09 PM
If they're paying attention enough to realize that, they already know.
12-27-2016 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
If they're paying attention enough to realize that, they already know.
not necessarily. how often do you post in CO and have it folded to you and get to showdown with a hand that would give this info away?
12-27-2016 , 11:33 PM
Well, he did say he posted without looking at his cards, so I don't see how he now would want to hide the fact that he is raising everything.
12-28-2016 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulValente
I guess that you give away that you are raising your post 100% to anyone who realized what happened.
He didn't raise, he 3b. Showing 32o there isn't revealing, it's misleading, which is why he should show.
12-28-2016 , 06:17 AM
But it was clear that he thought he was raising to two bets.
12-28-2016 , 11:47 AM
Most people will just think you're a spazz and if they don't and realize what happened they probably already know you're raising 100% from your post.
12-28-2016 , 01:21 PM
Just show the 3
12-28-2016 , 01:46 PM
Yeah it seems obvious that he didn't see the initial raise. I would hope you at least pretend to look at your cards though, even if you know you are raising 100%

Really it depends on the table. If it's a bunch of casual players that will just see a maniac that 3b the 32o and then got lucky, you should show. But if there are a few fairly observant regulars who you will be playing with frequently, I think it's better not to show.
12-28-2016 , 03:45 PM
FWIW I don't assume anyone but strong players raise their post 100% when folded to them because almost every player I'm up against doesn't.
12-28-2016 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheRail15
Most people will just think you're a spazz and if they don't and realize what happened they probably already know you're raising 100% from your post.
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Originally Posted by jdr0317
FWIW I don't assume anyone but strong players raise their post 100% when folded to them because almost every player I'm up against doesn't.
Think these two things are related. The best players play one way, and they all realize that you play like them. The terrible players see "OMG 32o!!". You're basically giving no new info to the good players, other than you fell asleep and missed the first raise -- they already knew this because of the PF action where you were forced to add a bet. Which gets to this
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He didn't raise, he 3b. Showing 32o there isn't revealing, it's misleading, which is why he should show.
I prefer never showing if I don't have to, but it depends on the table. If people who knew me saw me show, they'd know this was purely for advertising. Maybe show and ask "is my Full House the high hand for the hour?" if you wanted to show In the end, you want to have to show because you have the effective nuts. Not having to show, I wouldn't. We want that guy who folded on tilt.
12-29-2016 , 12:59 AM
Yes, I pretended to look at my cards. Makes the game more fun to play blind (not to mention deaf and dumb). The blinds were inveterate tightass non-defenders. I also prefer not to show ever. Didn't mean for this to get so much attention in the low content forum. We all tend to bemoan the bad beats and often forget the "accidental" wins.
12-29-2016 , 01:05 AM
I posted and raised blind today, turns out had 63o. Not doing that again.
12-29-2016 , 01:09 AM
But did you win?

Last edited by that_pope; 12-29-2016 at 01:10 AM. Reason: I don't need to post to raise that.
12-29-2016 , 04:02 PM
You have to show 32o to make the bad player tilt if they are present or make them think your a maniac.
No value at all to show to regulars or good players.
12-29-2016 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
You have to show 32o to balance your showing range.
Imo
12-31-2016 , 05:49 PM
I play good X2.

I raise UTG w/ QQ folds to BB who is above average and plays well who lol 3bets. I call.

Flop is 975, bet/call.
Turn is 8, bet/call.
River is a J, bet, I fold and show and he shows KK. Thanks to the 3bet preflop I save a lot.


One limper and I raise in HJ w/ A9. SB who plays every hand very passively and doesn't really understand hand strength calls as well as BB and limper.

Flop is 234. Checked to me, I bet, and SB and limper calls.
Turn is 4 checked to me and I bet and both call.
River is 5 and it is checked around.

SB shows KTo, Limper shows KJ and I am amazing again.

Brag: Had my largest winning session of the year in my shortest session. Won 4.5 racks in 2.5 hours.
12-31-2016 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I play good X2.

I raise UTG w/ QQ folds to BB who is above average and plays well who lol 3bets. I call.

Flop is 975, bet/call.
Turn is 8, bet/call.
River is a J, bet, I fold and show and he shows KK. Thanks to the 3bet preflop I save a lot.


One limper and I raise in HJ w/ A9. SB who plays every hand very passively and doesn't really understand hand strength calls as well as BB and limper.

Flop is 234. Checked to me, I bet, and SB and limper calls.
Turn is 4 checked to me and I bet and both call.
River is 5 and it is checked around.

SB shows KTo, Limper shows KJ and I am amazing again.

Brag: Had my largest winning session of the year in my shortest session. Won 4.5 racks in 2.5 hours.
I love how even a lot of the old school TAGs who have played for 25 years have tried new strats like not three betting the BB HU against an UTG open, but then there's others who just announce that they've a huge hand and get themselves exploited this badly and don't even think twice about it.

I'd bet River in hand 2 btw.
01-01-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
I posted and raised blind today, turns out had 63o. Not doing that again.
Too much hand. 4-high and lower only.

      
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