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Old 02-08-2012, 04:26 AM   #1
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Am I supposed to fold?

I open j8s on the button, huge fish calls sb, bb folds. Sb is mostly loose passive but bets 100% when checked to. He will raise but I've never seen him go crazy on a big street.

Flop is AhThJc.

I bet he calls.

Turn is Jh, he c/r.

River is a blank.

Live poker makes me really want to fold...
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:03 AM   #2
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No just call.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:43 AM   #3
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

If ever there were a spot to fold trips, this is it. But even at that, you still can't fold. You have the top of your range for hands that call the turn raise.

Plus huge fish find weird times to spaz out. You lose often when you call, but it's not a big mistake to call -- you'll win rarely but still sometimes win, and when you don't you pick up even more info on what hands he plays like this: does he slowplay flopped straights? Does he not c/r flopped flush draws? Does he not c/r flopped two pair? All these questions are answered when you call the river getting 8:1.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:50 AM   #4
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does he slowplay flopped straights? Does he not c/r flopped flush draws? Does he not c/r flopped two pair? All these questions are answered on the next episode of Soap
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:55 AM   #5
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

I can find worse hands that he is raising for value (J7s, J6s) so I would call. Given that he probably has some sort of a bluff range, I think this is still a call even though you're probably beaten.

Just as a short aside, do you check behind with <AQ on the turn? What about AK or AQ?
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:35 AM   #6
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

DONT FOLD
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:43 AM   #7
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

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Old 02-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #8
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

You chop a lot.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:51 AM   #9
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

This could easily be a delayed check-raise with an ace. That was his plan, and he's sticking to it.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:08 PM   #10
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This could easily be a delayed check-raise with an ace. That was his plan, and he's sticking to it.
This was my first thought.
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You chop a lot.
Exactly what i was thinking.
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:19 PM   #12
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You have the top of your range for hands that call the turn raise.
Uh, this isn't true at all I hope. Anyway I think its probably pretty close between call and fold
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:27 PM   #13
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Uh, this isn't true at all I hope.
Oops, of course you're right. I temporarily forgot about the flush hitting on the turn as well.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:57 PM   #14
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Re: Am I supposed to fold?

I could see a certain live player type having AK here, especially if he has the K of hearts
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:26 AM   #15
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Been really testing my propensity to show down, I'm glad to find this call wasn't out of line even though lately it feels like I never win here. He had the 27 hearts for the scoopzilla.
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