Live 20/40. Utg raises, next guy (villain) cold calls. Both are regs, fairly typical. They both are competent but play too many hands. Villain does weird things sometimes. I'm probably perceived as tight.

Folds to me in the BB and I call w Q4dd. Too loose?

Flop is Jd 3d 6x. I check, utg bets, villain calls, I raise and they both call.

Turn is another jack. I bet, utg folds, villain thinks for a second and calls.

River is 4. I... ?

I don't mind preflop.

I think flop is kind of close between check raise and check call. You don't really have any showdown value but you are pretty far up in your range of diamond draws. I like to have some flush draws in my check call range. I think with this exact hand I'd check call flop with the plan to check raise bluff sometimes on a later street. E.G. if a 5 hit I think this would be a great hand to check raise turn with.

I would give up betting on the turn since the board paired and it seems less likely they will fold a better hand. I especially like checking if UTG is the type to delay value on the flop.

On the river there are some villains I think we are better betting against for value (because they will always bet 6x+ if we check and are not going to bluff more than they should when we check). But against someone like villain in this hand who I am assuming is bad since he cold called from UTG+1, I would check call and hope he either sometimes misses value with a better hand or makes bad bluffs with hands that should just take a showdown.

I would think that villain is a pretty big favorite to have something like AQ or possibly a diamond draw with showdown value (KdQd, AdTd, etc.). He would have probably raised the flop with a pair. I'd bet for value.

A lot of players in UTG1's spot raise with all their pairs. Jx; 6x; PPs. They figure UTG is cbetting 100% and want to price out BB's flopped pairs and GSs. It makes their flatting range really weak. Even if he did delay Jx, he's raising turn with it almost always. This looks like a good spot to vbet wide since his range is so bad.

X/r this flop looks pretty awful against an utg opening range, I expect additional bets frequently

Leading the flop would be better, especially given your image

As played, continuing the turn looks ok, once villain calls though I think checking the river.. and maybe we can think about x/r if villain can fold pairs

As villain is described I'm probably check calling flop I would be worried about getting called light after a c/r or even 3! As played I would probably check call river bet folds not bad either but you might induce a river bluff by checking

I think preflop is marginal but probably fine. I'm not sure, though.

Flop, same thing. Can never be terrible to xr a flush draw 3 ways with fold equity (which we have when the flop doesn't get 3 bet)

Turn, that's an excellent card to barrel as UTG really can't raise you with much of anything. We said on the flop that we have a good jack, so our story makes sense.

River, occasionally he can have a weakly played hand that beats us, but I think he has high cards a bunch that he won't bluff when checked to, so I think a bet is fine. I expect to be called a bunch and lose sometimes when I am, and win a little more often when I am.

I would fold this preflop. 2 more players in the pot I would call, 1 its close.

Is it too soon to post results?

I would have played the same way.The river? I bet the river. It's consistent with your play on the flop and turn. He might fold. To me, none of the street is debatable

Well anyway I bet the river, really without thinking and for no legit reason and the guy called and j10 off. Made me think a few things;

I'm probably playing way too tight post flop. Thinking about it, my check raises are probably way too unbalanced towards big hands. In live 20/40 I dont think this such a big leak as most people pay me off anyway, but if I ever want to play bigger this could be an issue. So I probably want to start adding some bluffs and semi bluffs to my check raising range, right?

Also I think I should have check called the river. Once I check raised the flop I sort of just committed to barreling off no matter what, which is something I think I do sometimes. In hindsight its easy to really think about hand ranges and the board dynamics and how it should effect my play, but at game speed I dont really do this. Knowing this guy thinks (correctly or not), that I'm so tight, I think a check call is better. I give him a chance to bluff his missed diamonds and he'll probably check behind some mid pairs that I beat.

Been taking poker a little more seriously lately, trying to get better. Analyzing myself has been a bit sobering. I think Im good enough to like barely beat the game for maybe a small bet an hour at best, but really good players kill me. I know to isolate old man limper and just value bet him to death but Id like to do better than that. So here we are!

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Fold pre, your hand is poop

Pre is fine it's all fine until the river where check call is better

You don't want him to fold

cool, thats what i thought right after the hand

I think folding pre would be bad vs. weak villains with wider ranges.

I think betting River has to be better than check calling. Assuming he value bets 77-AA if checked to we lose 1 bet either way but win a bet when Ax calls river hoping we missed flush draw but would otherwise check back.

After he doesn't raise turn I can't think of many hands in hai range we do better on River agoanst when we check call

My post was also made before reading Poogs analysis and I asued he never checks back mid pairs and never bets missed diamonds or AJ-AK type hands.

If he actually does than River analysis def different

I think pre is close but fold. I think river is close but completely player dependent. If he checks 55- tt. And always bluffs 8tdd easy check. If he never bluffs and calls light. And will always vb better easy bet. Just depends on where he falls in this range