Originally Posted by alew22
Okay guys. You're right...im wrong. You want your regs to think youre tight, and 72o is a better open than 54s. Idk what i was thinking.
Gimme a break.
And "this is a limit hold em forum". ? No ****.
I quit on participating on forums. Im no genius, but most advice is junk and people in general just have no clue....cause they get advice from people who have no clue. Stupid poker players produce more stupid poker players. GL fishies.
I hope you come back, and I'll try to be nice about this:
What was meant by that discussion is that in a no limit game, one reason one might decide to open-raise 54s is that, if the stacks are deep enough, you are likely to get paid off when you make a big hand like a straight or a flush because your hand is concealed, and the implied odds you attain in those situations can justify the cost of your raises when you miss.
In contrast, simply raising a hand to steal the blinds isn't that big a deal in a deep stacked no limit game-- the blinds are tiny compared to the stacks that you can win on the big hands.
In contrast, in limit, it's the opposite. While obviously implied odds are not irrelevant, you can only win so much even when you make your big hand with 54s, so raising it up to hit a big hand, especially in a shorthanded pot, isn't likely to win enough money to justify the cost of your raises.
However, in limit, the blinds are VERY valuable.
So what we are saying is that open-raising 54s in late position because you are looking for the implied odds when you hit a big hand doesn't make a lot of sense in limit. (This was part of what I was getting at upthread when I said that 54s is basically any two cards in this situation.)