Thoughts on all streets because I think each one is possibly a mistake. Game is being played 6 or 7 handed, very passive pre flop with not much 3 betting so I've loosened my opening range

Preflop, I open UTG with K9 (let me know if this is a huge leak and if so, what's your opening range here), get 3 bet by UTG+1 who is the tightest player at the table, young white guy. Everyone else folds we call

Pot is 3.75 big bets

Flop is K94

I c/r, he calls

Pot is 5.75 BB

Turn is J

I bet, he raises, I 3 bet, he calls

Pot is 11.75 BB

River is 10

I bet planning to fold to a raise.

Thoughts on all streets appreciated

I like all streets if it's 6 handed. Preflop is close, but if game conditions merit it, and it's 6 handed, not 7 handed, then I don't think you should get flamed too hard for it. If BB is bad then go ahead.

Are you thinking you shouldn't 3bet the turn?

Yup, b/f river.

Hand looks good to me.

Haven't played any serious LHE for a while, so take it for what it's worth.
I don't open K9s UTG 7 handed, prob not 6 handed as well - the fact that there is not much 3 betting going on is not the only consideration that would lead me to loosen up. It's more how often they'd like to cold call me, esp with dominating hands. Not a huge deal though.
I like flop.
On the turn, I would give him a range of AA,KK,JJ,99,44 (not sure if he 3! this preflop or folds), AK,KQ,KJs, at least a couple of combos of AQs with backdoors. We are ~58% favorites vs this range so turn is looking close being OOP, but still ok. Does he have QsJs, QsTs etc' in his range? This would be rather key for river decision.

River is super thin, I don't know. I don't like to open myself up for a spot where I would be forced to fold two pair in a big pot for just one bet. How reliable your villain is?

I don't think Q10s is in his range, and I'm not even sure KJ is in his range. I don't see this villain raising AQ on the turn either.

The river, I don't think he's ever raising a hand that doesn't have a queen in it. If I check, he will probably check back all of his one pair hands (AK and AA), and bet all of his sets. In other words, if we are check calling him on the river, we are missing a bet on all of his AK and his AA hands, and the only downside is if my assumption of him only raising the river with straights is false (which is a relatively large assumption, but I'm going with it).

Probably good to b/f river against this particularly opponent (assuming he is as tight postflop as you mentioned he was preflop), but there's probably guys in your game that you would have to b/c there.

I'm trying to think of a plan around checking river . . . might have to consider if villain views you as especially tricky and if you're likely to go for x/r with a Q. Then that could help determine how thin he will value bet, and whether x/c is viable. I can't think of a way to comfortably x/f but maybe somebody can.

I love it

all streets seem good to me. k9s is the very bottom of my 6max opening range. so it'd be a little loose 7 handed (but justifiable if bb is really bad and you aren't too likely to get 3bet from behind).

In theory I think there are problems with b/f river because we essentially never have a straight here so we are b/f our entire range, but at game speed it's probably fine.

I would normally check/call in this spot. We're never folding out a better hand here and the only worse hands that are likely calling us are AA and AK. Also, with the way the hand played out, there are likely some better hands villain could have that call a bet from us but don't bet when checked to saving us a bet in those instances.

It's well played. Checking river would be really bad I think

I think I would bet-call the river just because it seems weird for him to have a queen. I guess we think he has KQ mostly, but this seems aggressive preflop and on the turn if he is, as you described, the tightest player at a passive table with not much 3-betting. I definitely don't expect he's raising the river with a non-Q value hand after only calling the turn. I think the price is good enough that I would pay off a raise.

I'd b/c river

The river doesn't change anything if we don't expect him to raise turn with KQ, which I think is reasonable. His most likely hands by far are AA/AK, so easy value bet and cry call a raise.

I don't think the turn 3-bet is automatic. I'm fine with it here I guess, but I don't think he should have AK or possibly AA in his turn raise range... there simply aren't enough worse Kx to get value.

QTss is in my range with this line.

with so much in pot already, and with a player so tight, why would you ever b/f for one bet. If your planning to invest a bet, why not c/c ? ...so many bets already in, no one folding here for one bet.

Because I can't imagine this villain raising without a queen

If he's a good hand reader it's hard to put you on a Q, easier for him to rep it. If you're betting I think you have to call.

Am I the only one who doesn't think the turn is a slam dunk 3?

I wasn't completely sure at the time, but did it pretty much in tempo. Now that we have all the time in the world to think and dissect ranges and such, expand upon your reasoning why this isn't a 3 bet on the turn. I'm willing to listen

You said Villain is tight, but is he just tight as far as opening hand selection? Is he weak-tight preflop? Is he aggressive postflop? Does he tend to miss value on the small streets? Big streets? Both? I think the turn is close against someone who is generically tight, because you really just beat AA/AK.

Also, if we check this river, we should check-fold.

I think he has qq, so , I not betting river, the tight og1 three is patent hi pair. Your hand spec. And not meant to face other problems so why change tatics now when the odds less? I don't take the club flush cards with no flush and a tight raise no check fold. You know he would call any reraise from you so he no drawing, the straight forming and he now confident big sign bluntly go got neg. Implyed odds , and two pair not a sure thing.

no.


Board: 49K*J
*******Equity*****Win*****Tie
MP2****63.80%**63.80%***0.00%*{ Kc9c }
MP3****36.20%**36.20%***0.00%*{ KK+, JJ, 99, AKs, KJs+, AsQs, AsTs, AKo, KQo }


if we need 66% equity to 3bet for value, then it's very close. this is the best case scenario. if OP's read is correct, this villain may not 3bet KQo pre flop and may not semi-bluff the turn with AsQs or AsTs.


Board: 49K*J
*******Equity*****Win*****Tie
MP2****59.30%**59.30%***0.00%*{ Kc9c }
MP3****40.70%**40.70%***0.00%*{ KK+, JJ, 99, AKs, KJs+, AKo }


this is what our equity looks like when we're only beating AA and AK.

win/lose according to combos for each scenario:
1. 22/7
2. 16/7

if scenario 1 is most likely, it's closer to a 3bet. if scenario 2 is most likely, it's closer to a call.

I don't think a tight player is raising the turn w QQ after getting x/r on K hi flop.