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/60 in Blackhawk:  fold to the CR? /60 in Blackhawk:  fold to the CR?

02-21-2014 , 01:23 AM
What do you plan on doing when you lose 40 BB in two hours? 2.5 over 40 hours is a weekend. Not to rain on your parade, but it's a tiny amount of money in a normal 30/60 game. Nevermind a half kill wild game like that one. $6k could be gone in an orbit of bad beats.


My advice if the money is meaningful. Take 5k and go to fiji or something you'd never do in a million years. Buy a wedding ring, order a russian bride, maybe start a froyo stand. That's a huge game to be learning on the go in, and will only end in trouble.
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02-21-2014 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Leader
As to pf, since you're learning the game, I'd suggest not call as your first preflop action except when defending the BB, completing the SB after limpers or when three players have already committed themselves to the pot. This strategy makes both preflop and post flop mistakes less likely while costing you little significant value.
This. And despite people saying you could raise here, the correct play is more typically to fold.

Against people who open "classically" (~14% here) and all nits you fold. You're basically even money equity wise (worse against the nits), but it's hard to get at your equity because so much of it stems from A-high.

Against people who open more "internet" style (17% or so) here, you can flip a coin. You're a tiny equity favorite and get an overlay from the blinds assuming they fold, but have the A-high problem looming. Since you aren't a very good postflop player, your coin should have fold written on both sides.

Against people who are just loose, raise. You're an equity favorite by enough to justify it.

Last edited by SplawnDarts; 02-21-2014 at 10:23 AM.
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02-21-2014 , 08:06 PM
Deep analysis in here. Great stuff.

Question 1: I also like the fold or 3bet PF line but what's the play if villain caps? Given hero's image, villain would have most likely capped, no? Also, I'm sure hero would peel the flop at least once after capped flop and fold the turn if he doesn't bink. Overall, fold is better or am I being too result oriented?

Question 2: Hero raised the flop and got the villain to check the A on the turn. Villian would have 3! with +88 and up. So he must have AK,AQ,AJ,AT,KQ range. Anyone liking the checking back turn line? Would this type of villain fire away the river blank as bluff? He would of course value bet any PP here no?
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02-22-2014 , 07:09 AM
Stop telling the guy to stop playing the game, he's said before he doesn't necessarily care about losing a few thousand and is in fact winning in the game and trying to get better. He probably stands a better chance at winning in this game than 4/8 with a 5 max rake.
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02-22-2014 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
Stop telling the guy to stop playing the game, he's said before he doesn't necessarily care about losing a few thousand and is in fact winning in the game and trying to get better. He probably stands a better chance at winning in this game than 4/8 with a 5 max rake.
This.
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02-22-2014 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
Stop telling the guy to stop playing the game, he's said before he doesn't necessarily care about losing a few thousand and is in fact winning in the game and trying to get better. He probably stands a better chance at winning in this game than 4/8 with a 5 max rake.
My first statement was if the money is meaningful, if it's not..have fun.


Since he mentioned being up a couple of straights, it sounds like it matters more than just keeping score. Thus the "serious advice"

If you guys prefer to not tap the glass more power to ya.
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02-22-2014 , 06:00 PM
Tap the glass? You've never played there. This guy is probably one of the 3 best players in the game. Him leaving helps.

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He probably stands a better chance at winning in this game than 4/8 with a 5 max rake.
Yeah, don't forget the $2 BBJ drop on top of it. It is worse than it sounds. Compared to LA, this game is horrible. Compared to Vegas...
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02-23-2014 , 02:34 AM
I must be confused, who is the on the leader boards? the OP? Whom my statement was directed at. Or my reply to Gobbo who told me to not tell the guy what to do?

Assuming you mean Gobbo, and you would do well to reread the last few posts. Clearly the "tapping the glass" comment was directed at his reply to my post, and not to him directly.

I'm not sure how someone could do better playing in a 30/60 game vs a 4/8 game $$ wise. If you'd like to measure it in -1bb vs -.50bb sure. If the OP doesn't care about the money, and wants to play in a bigger game, get better and win. More power to him, and forget I said anything about the money!
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