Crap, that's unfortunate. Bill Paxton was in some good movies.

That's freakishly fast.
Unless you like running. Like one of the mom's on our robotics team, who I saw on Strava did a nice easy workout... 14.5 miles of trail running, like you do on a random Sunday.

Especially considering the all-time record at the NFL combine is only .01 seconds faster, that being 4.24 set by Chris Johnson.

Wikipedia says his combine 40 was 4.41 but the Rams times him at 4.25 once.

Wikipedia is only counting electronic timed. Bo Jackson supposedly ran a 4.12 but it was semi-electronic time (i.e. started by hand, finish was electronic), so there is more room for error. Not sure how TC's Ram's workout was timed, but he also had an ankle sprain when he ran at the combine, so there is that.

Either way, he was super fast.

Going to stick with "freakishly fast".

We used to play pickup basketball with this 6'7" guy who was a high school D-lineman who just wasn't quite good enough to play for a D1 top 20 school. He was well bigger than 250 pounds. I assume he wasn't fast enough to play in the NFL. It was amazing how much quicker/faster he was than the rest of us. Actual 4.5 or 4.6 speed is just a different thing up close. Some dude with legit 4.25 speed? It would be mind blowing to be on a field or court with someone like that.

Pretty sure you're thinking of the 'other' Chris Johnson.

From The Cheat Sheet:

Beat that record, win an island.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...rd-nfl-combine

No, I'm talking about TC, the person desertcat is talking about.

My misunderstanding. I thought we were talking about the guy that holds the NFL combine record in the 40.

CrazyLond would never prop bet that guy in a running race, because it would be crazy. Instead, he found another dude who was a whole 0.01 slower. Actually, that was just a Ram's time. His combine 40 was a sedentary 4.41. Which to mere mortals like us is "the fastest guy you know" time.

As a tweener (somewhere between TE and WR) playing in one of those odd HS football offenses and recruited for D2/D3 I ran 4.91. Though I've actually lost 5-7 pounds of muscle since high school and college, there's no way I could run under 5 seconds now. When draft combine commentators refer to 4.67 RB as "slow", keep in mind these human meat markets feature athletes in their prime and trained w top sports science.

The longer the guy has been out of competition shape is a key aspect to consider. Even if he is still working out/running 2-3x week, he's way past his prime as a sprinter and I'd be surprised if he could do 200m in under 28 secs.

More important than any advice my lowly poker mind could furnish, I'd urge you to take him up on this no matter what, mostly for your health. There should be plenty of training routines available on youtube and you have a running partner in Jon. I've always gone w a "fortune favors the bold" approach to challenges and you should walk right into the office tomorrow, throw a Gatorade on his desk and say "You're on mother****er"!

This little office joke could be what motivates you to end the inertia of inactivity and may result in some big gains in your health, which almost inevitably improves the rest of your life.

with zero information other than this thread, i'd smash all in on the under. 28 is not fast.

As much as I'm on the "anything to motivate you to get fit" bandwagon, I'll go with whoever said that this is a great chance to get injured. If you were carefully crafting an exercise routine to get back into shape w/o injury, nothing in this regime would be on the list. I know for cycling there are a few good books on how to go from completely out of shape back to decent shape. Assuming in other arenas there are the same. Wind sprints seems like a brutal way to go from 0 to closer to in shape. Maybe someone who runs could suggest a middle ground? For biking, I'd have some ideas -- none of them would include contesting a world class sprinter even with some odds.

Who's saying 28 is fast lol? world class in 200m is about 20 secs and this guy was a HS champ, not a D1 All-American. Didn't even get D1 scholarship for track so he played D2 football. My guess is 23-24 secs in college. That's prob what most D2 punt returner/rb are gonna run. You do realize his 200m training ended in HS? Strength and conditioning for college football is way different.

Is "a few years off his peak physically", as described by a 290 lb guy worth the other 4-5 secs over a 200m race? Maybe not if you're looking to go all in, but I don't see any rationale for this guy to be at 25 secs when its prob within a couple seconds of his prime. Would be fun to get some more info on villain and then maybe I could set a line.

And yeah, injury obv major concern when starting from scratch. As posted, he should be able to find training routines from youtube that specifically address those precautions. But no way should someone in bad shape not use a prop bet to get healthy bc of injury concerns. It's still a non-contact sport.

You're just underestimating how ridiculously slow 28 seconds is. Fast twelve year olds run 200m in under 25 seconds.

Villain ran the 40 in 4.37 at his peak. He is 24 and graduated college 2 years ago. He has definitely lost some muscle mass in that time though.

How much can I bet on under 28 seconds?

haha based on that info, absolutely nothing OTR.

My read on villain, which was based on description by CL, was way off. 24 is only couple yrs off his peak. I'd give him a range of 23.5-24.8 secs off the top of my head w the new info.

We could probably get Jesse to pound a Guinness and run it in under 28 seconds.

Pfft. Man up.

Body fat apparently went from 13 to 27 in six months of playing poker for a living again. I don't even eat that much, though I did stop exercising entirely. Sigh. 20 pounds, pure fat.

Oh well, time to rock the gym again. Goal is to get back to where I was within six months.

This is a Dexa scan or something terrible like calipers or a "magic" scale?
Did you precious employment have you moving around a lot?

I forgot about 2+2 for a few years. Ohai guys <3 grinding the 40 & 60 at commerce all day every day if anyone wants to grab a beer~

lies, you don't play poker

Eh, the numbers are not necessarily accurate. The first one is from using bodywhat.com, I reduced it from 22 to 13 over a six month span. The 27 comes from the thing they have you hold at a gym, which I know can be wildly inaccurate. I do suspect the number is too high, but I really am in the worst shape of my life.

Frustrated with myself for getting to this point so soon and not looking forward to the work that needs to be put in to fix it, but it has to be done.

I found a personal trainer in that has his own gym and will allow you to do three sessions per week for $350 a month. At that rate it seems unlikely he is a good personal trainer, but for right now it's perfect- sadly, I just need to be forced to commit.