As a general line lol no no.

This is a line I've never taken before in this spot tbh. I figured with 7 to flop it can't be horrible to cap and most would figure I'm capping cause I have AKs or something.

The reason I'm not capping with 22 is because I'm not 4betting in that spot... so why would I 6bet?

There is definitely a difference between 22 and QQ in this spot. Set over set is rare, but can still happen. Also, boards can roll out that counterfeit your hand with a small PP, much more rare with a set of Queens.

I'm aware of the difference. I'm just saying once I know villain has AA the point is I need to hit my set.

If this is the case, why do you want to put more bets in preflop? Having more people in the pot and the fact that you have position doesn't change the fact that you need to spike a two outer.

Well with 7 to the flop and a few dead small bets from ppl who folded pre... I can't be worse then break even by capping...? I don't have stove so if I'm way off it would be nice to know

Wasn't sure myself, so I stoved it. Looks like we don't gain anything by putting in more action. We need a reasonable postflop before I think we can start putting in more bets here.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.954% 40.79% 00.17% 2289597 9492.31 { AA }
Hand 1: 14.416% 14.20% 00.22% 797163 12146.14 { QQ }
Hand 2: 08.913% 08.27% 00.64% 464453 35928.81 { random }
Hand 3: 08.921% 08.28% 00.64% 464837 35966.31 { random }
Hand 4: 08.932% 08.29% 00.64% 465300 36147.56 { random }
Hand 5: 08.938% 08.30% 00.64% 465747 36013.48 { random }
Hand 6: 08.926% 08.29% 00.64% 465185 35892.23 { random }

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Okay I was pretty sure I was at 15% in this spot so 14.4% isn't brutal. Keep in mind there's at least 2 dead small bets in this pot as well.

My logic was I shouldn't be worse then break even by capping. And judging by the line villain took I get to see a free turn as well on occasion.

I don't see how any dead small bets relate to value-capping vs calling. Aren't you supposed to be considering the value of the cap, rather than the pot-odds?

Will you pay 2sb to spike a set on the turn? Will you call a turn bet? Playing big pots takes a different sort of math, and you seem too focused on the one villian's hand you can read.

I think the flop cap is slightly bad. But it creates a 50sb pot- do you think you make fewer mistakes in 30BB pots on the turn/river than your opponents? How many times per month do you ask yourself things like "Am I good 3% of the time here to put in a river bet?" There are folks with lots of experience in wild games who love these spots. Are you one of them?
-Curtis

This is the first time I had really ever came up with a spot like this. Why don't I give the hh so we can further die sect.

Flop: Qc7h10d
Action is checked to hero OTB. Hero bets, villain raises, 3 callers, hero calls.
Turn:8s
Villain bets, folds to hero. Hero raises, villain calls.
River:9s
Villain x/c's

This hand happened over a month ago. I didn't write anything but the board for whatever reason. Action is correct tho. As far as I remember the other players had super weak hands and I was hoping to string them along by just calling the flop. The other reason for bet calling otf was because my range here will typically be behind villain here. I figured turn would be villain bets, 1 or two callers then hero raises hoping villain raises but it was a pretty horrible turn for a superstitious tight player to bet, 3!

If this flop had not come with a Q I check behind if checked to. I call a turn bet UI and fold river UI based on villains tendency to purely have mostly aces sometimes kings in this spot.

Unless I'm reading this wrong... You flopped top set 7 handed, got chk raised, caught 3 people in between and you didn't 3bet?

Yes.

This decision was more or less villain specific. When I 3bet the flop here he won't 4bet unless he's on raging monkey tilt and if I 3bet he just x/c's down. Therefore when he leads the turn I was hoping at least 1 of the other two caught between gets stuck so I can get 2-6 small bets here vs the 7-9 I get on flop. I got 6 on flop.

You don't have one villain in the hand, you have four- three of whom have already called two cold and you're saying your primary villain won't face them with calling two more cold (which is a shame 'cause they would have). But they can't call your raise unless you make it.

Gawd almighty man, get your chips in the middle on the flop.

Yes I immediately realized I should have raised otf. Turn was also worst case scenario turnout as well. Either way that flop doesn't go 4 bets. And yes I'm aware more then one villain. Thanks tips.